We should not rule out certain applications of amateur radio just because the majority of hams currently doesn't find them interesting or useful; that's the road to technical stagnation.
We need only insist that all amateur applications be responsible in their stewardship of our shared commons, and have no negative impact on the operations of other amateurs. Where I part company with the ARRL and its "segmentation by bandwidth maxima" proposal is that they not only tolerate operation that negatively impacts other amateurs, they propose its expansion. 73, Dave, AA6YQ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "jivey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > N6CRR, > > You sure did hit the nail on the head with this one. That is exactly what the one want that is pushing this stuff. The want to turn ham radio into an email forwarding service. I just wonder how many of those guys ever work any other mode other than passing email. Most all emergency communications is going to be defined to a local area of the country anyway. (Emergency is defined a threat to life and property). I am not against the handling of important traffic, as a matter fact I am all for it. What I am against is the automatic control stations. I believe every station operating on HF should have an operator present. > > As I have said many time I don't think the ARRL know what is actually going on on the bands except what they want to know. They have no idea of what the average operator want nor do they care. PSK31 had been operating for well over a year before anything ever appeared in QST about it. > > As for developing sound card software that will decode below the noise level, I don't think that will ever pan out because the software can only decode what it hears. This is going to have to be address in the radio end of things. Also if someone is in QSO with one of these modes and another operator can not see the signal or hear it how is he going to know that there is a qso going on. Yes there is some software that copies in noise better than others. > > Joe > W4JSI > > Age is mind over matter > If you don't mind, > it does not matter > ----- Original Message ----- > From: N6CRR > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 2:49 PM > Subject: [digitalradio] Re: ARRL proposal removes baud rate limitations on HF > > > However, unless Part 97.1 is changed as to the purpose > > of Amateur radio, enhancement of the radio art also includes HF. The > > issue is that there is little incentive to further develop digital > > protocols for high speed binary transfer since under Part 97.221, > > there is little space to use what already exists. > > > > > > Steve, k4cjx > > So that's the thing in a nut shell from your statement from above, > incentive to further develop digital protocols for high speed binary > transfer. Who thinks this is a good idea? Is this a case of just > because you can, should you do it and at what price to existing > operations? > > From what I can tell, most of the Amateur community is neither in > favor of the ARRL's vision statement expressed in a recent ARRL letter > towards delivery of digital content over HF and VHF frequencies nor > the vision would appear to provide email, weather maps, position > reporting and other connectivity between the internet and remote > users. The current allocations seem to support all the users that want > to use this sort of capability. Where is the traffic analysis > published that shows that there is a demand for an expansion of this > service that would justify potentially impacting ordinary Joe's and > Jane's just wanting to have a yack on the radio? Where is the data > content analysis that shows that the data being transferred over these > sorts of services are within the current regulations in terms of > non-business communications, no profanity, and not just the usual spam > that flood all our email boxes? The burden of proof is not on the > incumbent services, it's on those who wish to change. > > It may be technically feasible to do everything WinLink, the ARRL and > others may want to do by allowing more spectrum to be allocated to > these services, but by doing so is the resulting environment still > Amateur Radio? I think the Amateur community is saying not only No, > but HELL NO! > > The argument for me is philosophical, I am obviously on a different > wavelength frequency than those who are advocating for this change. > > Cheers > N6CRR > > > > > > > > > Need a Digital mode QSO? 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