I have come to agree with you and Howard on this, John. We should replace all of 97.221 with the following 27 words:
"No automatic station shall transmit on an already-occupied frequency, or without identifying in 15 wpm CW at the beginning of each 5 minute interval of operation." Polite automatic stations can operate where they like. Control operators for rude automatic stations will lose their licenses. No sub-bands. No mercy. 73, Dave, AA6YQ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > why would we re-do regulations which have been in effect for 50 years, or longer, allowing SSB down to 14100 and 7050 in Canada? > > Lately those regulations are no longer in effect but I have yet to see anyone operating below those freq's, so far respecting the > "gentleman's agreement" which is how our band plan is now run. > > I can't , for the life of me, understand why you guys keep getting mired in the desire for more regulations, completely out of step with the rest of the globe. > > > John > VE5MU > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jgorman01 > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 7:37 PM > Subject: [digitalradio] Re: ARRL proposal removes baud rate limitations on HF > > > As long as countries like Canada would redo their regulations and > prevent stations from simply moving lower since it is legal to so. > > Jim > WA0LYK > > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Danny Douglas" <n7dc@> wrote: > > > > The exact reson we need INTERNATIONAL subbands. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "jgorman01" <jg6164@> > > To: <digitalradio@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 3:09 PM > > Subject: [digitalradio] Re: ARRL proposal removes baud rate > limitations on > > HF > > > > > > > The real problem right now is not expanding our SSB segments, but > > > rather that expansion forcing other countries SSB even lower. > > > Canadian, Mexican, and Central American SSB stations are already far, > > > far down in the lower parts of 80m and 40m. So far in fact that > > > sometimes it is hard to have CW or PSK qso's. How many more will show > > > up if our SSB segments expand. Sometimes we forget we are not the > > > only hams in the world. > > > > > > Regardless of what is officially said, hams in other countries are > > > allowed to operate this low for only one reason, to avoid qrm from US > > > SSB stations. They will continue to do, making it harder and harder > > > for both CW and the narrow digital modes. > > > > > > Jim > > > WA0LYK > > > > > > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Danny Douglas" <n7dc@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "KV9U" <mrfarm@> > > > > To: <digitalradio@yahoogroups.com> > > > > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 10:08 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: ARRL proposal removes baud rate > > > limitations > > > > on HF > > > > > > > > > > > > > Danny, > > > > > > > > > > Even if the CW subbands shrink, it does not mean that there will > > > be any > > > > > shortage of spectrum for CW. From what I have read of the > > > proposals, any > > > > > narrow mode can always be used in a wider mode subband. Just > like you > > > > > can today. No one loses anything. In fact, it is the exact > opposite > > > > > because other hams will gain the privelege to use more modes > over a > > > > > wider area. Particularly voice modes since they are the > overwelmingly > > > > > most popular modes and use the most bandwidth for a given > amount of > > > > > communication intelligence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org > > > > > > Other areas of interest: > > > > > > The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ > > > DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy > > discussion) > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/251 - Release Date: > 2/4/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Need a Digital mode QSO? 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