Guys,

Like I have said before, the only way to solve this is to designate a certain 
portion on each band just for this type of communications. 

I just don't understand anyone would spend thousand of dollars on radios, 
antennas, computers and other related hardware just to pass email.

Joe
W4JSI

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: jgorman01 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 6:07 PM
  Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Busy detector


  Ask yourself why scamp died. Do you really think the winlink users
  who have spent a thousand dollars or more on pactor modems are going
  to relish throwing that investment away because the winlink admin's
  have decided to go to a soundcard mode?

  Jim
  WA0LYK

  --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
  >
  > I have been lobbying the WinLink team to do this for years, without 
  > success. You are more than welcome to try, Jose.
  > 
  > 73,
  > 
  > Dave, AA6YQ
  > 
  > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Jose A. Amador" <amador@> 
  > wrote:
  > >
  > > 
  > > Dave Bernstein wrote:
  > > 
  > > > As is often the case in engineering, Jose, perfect is the enemy 
  > of 
  > > > good. What Rick KN6KB discovered while developing SCAMP's busy 
  > > > detector was that he could detect CW, PSK, Pactor, and SSB at an 
  > ~80% 
  > > > confidence level without enormous difficulty. SCAMP beta testers 
  > were 
  > > > amazed by the effectiveness of this first iteration.
  > > > 
  > > > Pushing the confidence level from 80% to 100%, however, would 
  > take 
  > > > years -- if its even possible. But a busy detector that works 80% 
  > of 
  > > > the time would cut QRM from unattended automated stations (like 
  > > > WinLink PMBOs) by a factor of 5! 
  > > > 
  > > > Your comment that "many think it is simpler than it really is to 
  > do 
  > > > it WELL" is frankly moot; Rick demonstrated two years ago that 
  > useful 
  > > > busy frequency detection was implementable on a PC and soundcard.
  > > > 
  > > > 73,
  > > > 
  > > > Dave, AA6YQ
  > > 
  > > I understand that 80% is fairly good. Hope the long standing 
  > > anti-automatic stations lobby sees it as acceptable as well.
  > > 
  > > What is seemingly left, then, is to simply push the busy detector 
  > into 
  > > practice and 24/7 service.
  > > 
  > > Who will get the task done?
  > > 
  > > 73, Jose
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
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  >



   

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