Hi Jeff,

I can tell some of the modes on the waterfall, but then again many are 
not really discernable. By combining the sound of the mode with the 
appearance on the waterfall, you can get better at it. Bandwidth is one 
factor, the relative number of tones, certain spacing, etc., all help to 
determine it.

I just asked about the log problem on the DXLab group since I suspect 
many of us have this problem. I rarely have logged anything over the 
years as I don't have a strong interest in collecting awards and have 
lost most logs that were on programs that I did not back up. My goal now 
is to try and limit the number of programs that I use, and combine 
things on DXLabs DXKeeper program, which is one of the main programs in 
the DX Lab Suite of programs.

I don't have much interest in SST, particularly the analog form, but 
have sometimes copied the modes just to see how it is done. Most of the 
programs will automatically detect an analog mode won't they? The 
digital SSTV modes seem to be quite automatic since it detects many 
parameters including callsigns.

73,

Rick, KV9U


Jeff Moore wrote:
> Rick,
>  
> My interests are similar to yours, ie, effective emergency comms, and 
> just trying out all the different modes.
>  
> I have two main issues:  1.  Being brand new to digital modes, I find 
> it rather difficult to tell what mode I'm seeing on the waterfall.  I 
> recognize PSK, RTTY, MFSK16 (now), but after that I'm lost.  Also, 
> often times, I'm running software that doesn't go beyond the basic 
> modes, so by the time I can get sw up and running that may be able to 
> decode that exotic trace on the waterfall, the signal is gone!
>  
> 2.  Log keeping, I don't want to have 10 different log files, I want 
> to have one.  I use DXKeeper and WinWarbler and MultiPSK will 
> interface to it, but I also run HRD/DM780, NBEMS, MixW, and several 
> others that don't.
>  
> But I have to wonder if it utlimately comes down to item 1. above.  
> Hams (and people in general) stick with what they're familiar with.  A 
> good example - SSTV,  I've spent hours runnng MultiPSK trying to 
> figure out which variation of SSTV a signal is only to be rewarded 
> with nothing.  I've pretty much given up on SSTV for that reason.  I 
> keep plugging away at the rest of the digimodes, because I 
> occasionally have success at decoding some exotic signal.  And the 
> real reward is finding someone in a QSO that wants to try other modes!
>  
> Jeff   --  KE7ACY
> CN94
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Rick <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I have been concerned for some time about the lack of interest in the
> new modes, even though some of us try and promote them. Very few hams
> have any interest in digital modes to begin with. About half the hams
> here in the U.S. can not operate below 10 meters since you need at least
> a General Class license, and the great majority of General and higher
> class licensees do not ever operate, nor do they have any interest in
> operating digital modes, particularly keyboard digital modes on HF. Not
> only because it is not interesting to them, but many of them do not have
> typing skills.
>
> Because my interests are a bit narrower than most of you with a focus on
> accurate message capability particularly what works for practical
> emergency communication, there are exceedingly few who have the
> slightest interest in this. I sent out a request for some testing of
> these modes to a two county area. I have received responses back from
> just a couple of hams who I already knew had interest in this and have
> done a few tests in the past and one ham outside the two county area who
> monitors the list. That is very telling!
>
> [snip]
>
> .
>
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