Yes, rotated constellations are a new feature of DVB-T2. More reading here.

http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_ts/102800_102899/102831/01.02.01_60/ts_102831v010201p.pdf

See section 9.2.3. In addition to the rotation, the I and Q components of a QAM/QPSK symbol are cyclically delayed. Since there's a time and a frequency interleaver after the modulator, the I and Q components of a symbol get sent at a different time and a different frequency (OFDM carrier). Almost all DVB-T2 broadcasters turn this feature on, even with 256QAM. All DVB-T2 receivers must support rotated constellations.

Be sure to change the "Constellation rotation" parameter in *both* the Modulator block and the Frame Mapper block, or the receiver will get confused.

BTW, both the DVB-T2 and DVB-S2 transmitters will be included in GNU Radio in the next release (3.7.7) as part of gr-dtv.

If you place a Scope Sink after the modulator, you can see the "virtual" constellation mentioned in the link above.

Virtual 16QAM

Ron

On 04/06/2015 10:14 PM, Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras wrote:

It _is_ intended:

http://dcis2009.unizar.es/FILES/CR2/p41.pdf

So forget about my question :)

Ralph.

*From:*discuss-gnuradio-bounces+ralph=schmid....@gnu.org [mailto:discuss-gnuradio-bounces+ralph=schmid....@gnu.org] *On Behalf Of *Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 7, 2015 07:04
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Hmm, now I see, there is an option "constellation rotation" in the modulator block. Maybe this is not an accident, but wanted behavior?! I will check this evening...


Ralph.

*From:*discuss-gnuradio-bounces+ralph=schmid....@gnu.org <mailto:discuss-gnuradio-bounces+ralph=schmid....@gnu.org> [mailto:discuss-gnuradio-bounces+ralph=schmid....@gnu.org] *On Behalf Of *Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 7, 2015 06:39
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*Subject:* [Discuss-gnuradio] DVB-T/T2

Hi,

With Rons help I got the DVB-T/T2 flowgraphs up and running.

DVB-T works great, no issues at all, while DVB-T2 is somehow flaky in reception.

When using a cheap DVB-x tester, the DVB-T2 constellation is phase shifted. I have no real world T2 signals to compare, but at least the tester shows normal constellation views when looking at S and T signals off the air.

This is how things look:

http://dk5ras.dyndns.org/tmp/DVB/

The flowgraphs are almost original, just adopted to the USRP B210, and I added channel slider...

Any ideas what I could tweak?

Ralph.


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