Hi Ron,
I have not followed the development of DVB-T2/S2 lately. Are there receiver
implementations for the T2/S2 or just transmitters?
Thanks,
Bogdan
On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 1:32 PM, "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras"
<ra...@schmid.xxx> wrote:
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finds its way into the official thing! At the moment, as the RF stuff works,
I am trying to learn about all this crazy video file stuff, for being able to
create transport streams with my own content. Up to now I am still testing with
the cartoon .ts :) Still my laptop (with DVBViewer software) will not decode
the audio, while the DVB tester decodes audio just fine. Ralph. From:
discuss-gnuradio-bounces+ralph=schmid....@gnu.org
[mailto:discuss-gnuradio-bounces+ralph=schmid....@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Ron
Economos
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2015 8:14 AM
To: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] DVB-T/T2 Yes, rotated constellations are a new
feature of DVB-T2. More reading here.
http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_ts/102800_102899/102831/01.02.01_60/ts_102831v010201p.pdf
See section 9.2.3. In addition to the rotation, the I and Q components of a
QAM/QPSK symbol are cyclically delayed. Since there's a time and a frequency
interleaver after the modulator, the I and Q components of a symbol get sent at
a different time and a different frequency (OFDM carrier). Almost all DVB-T2
broadcasters turn this feature on, even with 256QAM. All DVB-T2 receivers must
support rotated constellations.
Be sure to change the "Constellation rotation" parameter in both the Modulator
block and the Frame Mapper block, or the receiver will get confused.
BTW, both the DVB-T2 and DVB-S2 transmitters will be included in GNU Radio in
the next release (3.7.7) as part of gr-dtv.
If you place a Scope Sink after the modulator, you can see the "virtual"
constellation mentioned in the link above.
RonOn 04/06/2015 10:14 PM, Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras wrote:
It _is_ intended: http://dcis2009.unizar.es/FILES/CR2/p41.pdf So forget about
my question :) Ralph. From: discuss-gnuradio-bounces+ralph=schmid....@gnu.org
[mailto:discuss-gnuradio-bounces+ralph=schmid....@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Ralph
A. Schmid, dk5ras
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2015 07:04
To: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] DVB-T/T2 Hmm, now I see, there is an option
"constellation rotation" in the modulator block. Maybe this is not an accident,
but wanted behavior?! I will check this evening...
Ralph. From: discuss-gnuradio-bounces+ralph=schmid....@gnu.org
[mailto:discuss-gnuradio-bounces+ralph=schmid....@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Ralph
A. Schmid, dk5ras
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2015 06:39
To: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org
Subject: [Discuss-gnuradio] DVB-T/T2 Hi, With Rons help I got the DVB-T/T2
flowgraphs up and running. DVB-T works great, no issues at all, while DVB-T2 is
somehow flaky in reception. When using a cheap DVB-x tester, the DVB-T2
constellation is phase shifted. I have no real world T2 signals to compare, but
at least the tester shows normal constellation views when looking at S and T
signals off the air. This is how things look: http://dk5ras.dyndns.org/tmp/DVB/
The flowgraphs are almost original, just adopted to the USRP B210, and I added
channel slider... Any ideas what I could tweak? Ralph.
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