Hi,

 

Don't be worried by the Us, I am running the whole thing in a virtual machine 
that lives on a Windows tablet PC, so it is normal that Linux stutters a bit 
when Windows claims its rights. I just must not touch Windows, and everything 
is fine. 

 

OK, so I just need to set the correct bitrate, and the stream should run. 
Great. Can I keep frame rate as it is from the original video? And what do the 
stream ID fields for video and audio mean?

 

My version of the specs does not have the mentioned chapters, but I have 
already guessed something like this. It just made me curious because the 
constellation plots in the specs do not show this. Ah, here, the stuff linked 
in Wikipedia is what you referred to. My documents seem newer, but different. 
tr_101190v010302p.pdf and ts_102831v010201p.pdf


Ralph.

 

 

 

From: Bogdan Diaconescu [mailto:b_diacone...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 17:13
To: Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras; 'Ron Economos'; discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] DVB-T/T2

 

Hi Ralf,

 

having Us when moving the mouse does not looks good. Can you show a picture 
taken with htop (on Linux).

 

the coding is a setting of the transmitter and receiver and it just need to be 
the same on both. It does impact the maximum bitrate of the stream as in the 
table.

 

Look into the 4.5.4 and 4.5.5 chapters. It says that reference information is 
sent at "boosted" power level with imaginary equal zero. This is what you see 
in the two dots on left and right.

 

Bogdan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 5:34 PM, "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" 
<ra...@schmid.xxx> wrote:

 

Hi, 

 

The Us are when I do something else with the machine. They do not show when I 
keep my fingers off the mouse, so no reason to worry, it runs for ages without 
a single U when the machine is kept alone. 



 

I already found out about the rate. The coding also needs to be reflected by 
the transport stream, or just regarding the bitrate? I did not find a setting 
for that, but I will look deeper into it during the next days, when I find some 
time. My first test trying to set identical settings like from the working test 
stream brought just a black picture. 

 

Another question...when looking into the constellation, what are the two dot 
clouds on the X/I-axis, outside the expected 4*4 cloud matrix? Some embedded 
BPSK? I could not find this in the DVB-T specs at first glance...

 

Ralph.

 

 

From: Bogdan Diaconescu [mailto:b_diacone...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 2:57 PM
To: Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras; 'Ron Economos'; discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] DVB-T/T2

 

Hi Ralph,

 

DVB-T.png shows some u's on the command line which means the whole flowgraph do 
not provide data to USRP at the right speed. It basically mean the computer 
cannot cope with the required processing requirement.

 

As for the video parameters, in the DVB-T specs 
(http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/300700_300799/300744/01.06.01_60/en_300744v010601p.pdf)
 you will find Table 17 where the rates are presented. FYI, the settings you 
have used are 8Mhz bandwidth, QAM-16 constellation, coding 1/2, guard interval 
1/32. The video should be constant bit rate but it is not a hard requirement 
(see below).

 

If you just broadcast video from a file and not plan to use a live streaming 
from camera, the rate should not matter too much. The video is sent at the rate 
of the DVB-T according to it's parameters and with RTL2832 receiver it is 
buffered and played at the correct speed (at least for short files like 
test.ts).

 

Bogdan

 

 

On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 11:55 AM, "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" 
<ra...@schmid.xxx> wrote:

 

Yep, this would be quite useful!

Bogdan, as you are here, too - I don't know very much about all the crazy video 
file stuff, but maybe you can give me some basic parameters I need to comply 
with for a transport stream, to be able to transmit it with your package?! I 
need to use Windows for the conversion, as my Linux installation is only on a 
virtual machine, with limited space and power. A capable looking Windows 
program is available, but there are so many options I have no clue about :(

 

I modified your flow graph according to Rons hints, and now I have a stable and 
reliable DVB-T transmission path with your package. See 
http://dk5ras.dyndns.org/tmp/DVB/ with a screenshot. I am using the Ettus B210, 
and for reception a second PC with DVB-T stick, or a DVB-x tester that does 
them all, DVB-C/S/S2/T/T2. 

 

You and Ron really did a great job with coding those DVB-x packages!

 

Ralph.

 

From: discuss-gnuradio-bounces+ralph=schmid....@gnu.org 
[mailto:discuss-gnuradio-bounces+ralph=schmid....@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Bogdan 
Diaconescu
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 8:01 AM
To: Ron Economos; discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] DVB-T/T2

 

Ok, it would be useful to have receivers too like for the DVB-T. 

 

Bogdan

 

 

On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 11:23 PM, Ron Economos <w...@comcast.net> wrote:

 

Only transmitter implementations for now. They are here:

https://github.com/drmpeg/gr-dvbs2

https://github.com/drmpeg/gr-dvbt2

The DVB-T2 implementation supports T2-Lite, tone reservation PAPR reduction and 
MISO processing.

Ron

On 04/07/2015 06:38 AM, Bogdan Diaconescu wrote:

Hi Ron,

 

I have not followed the development of DVB-T2/S2 lately. Are there receiver 
implementations for the T2/S2 or just transmitters?

 

Thanks,

Bogdan

 

 

On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 1:32 PM, "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras"  
<mailto:ra...@schmid.xxx> <ra...@schmid.xxx> wrote:

 

Great to hear that you work finds its way into the official thing! 

 

At the moment, as the RF stuff works, I am trying to learn about all this crazy 
video file stuff, for being able to create transport streams with my own 
content. Up to now I am still testing with the cartoon .ts :) Still my laptop 
(with DVBViewer software) will not decode the audio, while the DVB tester 
decodes audio just fine. 

 

Ralph.

  

 

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