Great to hear that you work finds its way into the official thing! 

 

At the moment, as the RF stuff works, I am trying to learn about all this
crazy video file stuff, for being able to create transport streams with my
own content. Up to now I am still testing with the cartoon .ts :) Still my
laptop (with DVBViewer software) will not decode the audio, while the DVB
tester decodes audio just fine. 

 

Ralph.

 

From: discuss-gnuradio-bounces+ralph=schmid....@gnu.org
[mailto:discuss-gnuradio-bounces+ralph=schmid....@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Ron
Economos
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2015 8:14 AM
To: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] DVB-T/T2

 

Yes, rotated constellations are a new feature of DVB-T2. More reading here.

http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_ts/102800_102899/102831/01.02.01_60/ts_1028
31v010201p.pdf

See section 9.2.3. In addition to the rotation, the I and Q components of a
QAM/QPSK symbol are cyclically delayed. Since there's a time and a frequency
interleaver after the modulator, the I and Q components of a symbol get sent
at a different time and a different frequency (OFDM carrier). Almost all
DVB-T2 broadcasters turn this feature on, even with 256QAM. All DVB-T2
receivers must support rotated constellations.

Be sure to change the "Constellation rotation" parameter in both the
Modulator block and the Frame Mapper block, or the receiver will get
confused.

BTW, both the DVB-T2 and DVB-S2 transmitters will be included in GNU Radio
in the next release (3.7.7) as part of gr-dtv.

If you place a Scope Sink after the modulator, you can see the "virtual"
constellation mentioned in the link above.



Ron

On 04/06/2015 10:14 PM, Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras wrote:

It _is_ intended:

 

http://dcis2009.unizar.es/FILES/CR2/p41.pdf

 

So forget about my question :)

 

Ralph.

 

From: discuss-gnuradio-bounces+ralph=schmid....@gnu.org
<mailto:discuss-gnuradio-bounces+ralph=schmid....@gnu.org>
[mailto:discuss-gnuradio-bounces+ralph=schmid....@gnu.org] On Behalf Of
Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2015 07:04
To: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org <mailto:discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org> 
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] DVB-T/T2

 

Hmm, now I see, there is an option "constellation rotation" in the modulator
block. Maybe this is not an accident, but wanted behavior?! I will check
this evening...


Ralph.

 

From: discuss-gnuradio-bounces+ralph=schmid....@gnu.org
[mailto:discuss-gnuradio-bounces+ralph=schmid....@gnu.org] On Behalf Of
Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2015 06:39
To: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org <mailto:discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org> 
Subject: [Discuss-gnuradio] DVB-T/T2

 

Hi,

 

With Rons help I got the DVB-T/T2 flowgraphs up and running.

 

DVB-T works great, no issues at all, while DVB-T2 is somehow flaky in
reception.

 

When using a cheap DVB-x tester, the DVB-T2 constellation is phase shifted.
I have no real world T2 signals to compare, but at least the tester shows
normal constellation views when looking at S and T signals off the air.

 

This is how things look:

 

http://dk5ras.dyndns.org/tmp/DVB/

 

The flowgraphs are almost original, just adopted to the USRP B210, and I
added channel slider...

 

Any ideas what I could tweak?

 

Ralph.

 

 

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