On the vide http://channel9.msdn.com/events/Build/2015/3-610

at time 57:30 it seems to indicate that Ms is also working on a swift
compiler.

On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 5:48 AM, Alessandro Sangiuliano <[email protected]
> wrote:

>  The interesting thing, in addition that MS made objective-c and a
> compatible framework with the Apple one, is to see how the swift situation
> will evolve.
>
> MS done this "port", because they don't have a large set of Apps in their
> store for mobile Windows, and the developers focusing Windows for phones
> were very few respect Android and iOS. This is a strategy to make easier
> the port of Apps from iOs to  Windows (phone or how they call it), but I
> think this was quite obvious to all here.
>
> If this will have success, and windows (phone) will start to take is piece
> of the cake in the smartphone market, why a developer should choice swift
> respet objective-c? Swift for now runs only on Apple, obj-c runs on linux,
> *bsd, hurd and now "natively" (without mingw or other stuffs) also on
> Windows (phone and PCs, for what I saw from the video), and it is
> integrated in Visual Studio too.
>
> Will be Swift just a fan boys language? Who now if now the chaces to be
> released as open source are increased? And how much it will be usefull now,
> if it will be released?
>  At last, Swift what has more than obj-c? They claim it is faster than
> obj-c. The only reason I was waiting for swift, was the hope to see it with
> a garbage collector instead of ARC, this not happened, and will not happen,
> I think, so for me became a useless language.
>
> Alex.
>
>
> Il 02/05/2015 19:38, Gregory Casamento ha scritto:
>
> What I find most frustrating is the fact that we thought about doing this
> a long time ago. It's a lesson to me, at least, to act on my instincts.
> On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 13:25 Fred Kiefer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Great to see that you are taking this story with such good spirit. This
>> is something I like about GNUstep.
>>
>>  If you want to get more details from Microsoft here is a video
>> http://channel9.msdn.com/events/Build/2015/3-610
>> You will have to skip to minute 33 for the Objective C demo, before that
>> it is just some nice compiler changes.
>>
>>  Fred
>>
>> On the road
>>
>> Am 01.05.2015 um 10:27 schrieb Ivan Vučica <[email protected]>:
>>
>>   That would be very surprising; why would they do that?
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> sent from phone
>> On May 1, 2015 09:26, "David Chisnall" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 30 Apr 2015, at 23:43, Fred Kiefer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > On the other hand, I find it very frustrating to see how fast they
>>> implemented something that we have  been working on for years.
>>>
>>> I am led to believe that Microsoft employs some full-time developers.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> -- Sent from my IBM 1620
>>>
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