I hope by 'take another look' you mean 'continue looking at and working on
it'.

I hope you do not mean 'consider whether Microsoft may be opening up enough
to release an free/open version of it', as that may or may not happen. :-)

On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Gregory Casamento <[email protected]
> wrote:

> Given what is happening in MS land I really feel strongly that we need to
> take another look at doing this and making a Free/Open version of the
> UIKit.
>
> GC
>
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 4:55 AM Luis Garcia Alanis <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On the vide http://channel9.msdn.com/events/Build/2015/3-610
>>
>> at time 57:30 it seems to indicate that Ms is also working on a swift
>> compiler.
>>
>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 5:48 AM, Alessandro Sangiuliano <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  The interesting thing, in addition that MS made objective-c and a
>>> compatible framework with the Apple one, is to see how the swift situation
>>> will evolve.
>>>
>>> MS done this "port", because they don't have a large set of Apps in
>>> their store for mobile Windows, and the developers focusing Windows for
>>> phones were very few respect Android and iOS. This is a strategy to make
>>> easier the port of Apps from iOs to  Windows (phone or how they call it),
>>> but I think this was quite obvious to all here.
>>>
>>> If this will have success, and windows (phone) will start to take is
>>> piece of the cake in the smartphone market, why a developer should choice
>>> swift respet objective-c? Swift for now runs only on Apple, obj-c runs on
>>> linux, *bsd, hurd and now "natively" (without mingw or other stuffs) also
>>> on Windows (phone and PCs, for what I saw from the video), and it is
>>> integrated in Visual Studio too.
>>>
>>> Will be Swift just a fan boys language? Who now if now the chaces to be
>>> released as open source are increased? And how much it will be usefull now,
>>> if it will be released?
>>>  At last, Swift what has more than obj-c? They claim it is faster than
>>> obj-c. The only reason I was waiting for swift, was the hope to see it with
>>> a garbage collector instead of ARC, this not happened, and will not happen,
>>> I think, so for me became a useless language.
>>>
>>> Alex.
>>>
>>>
>>> Il 02/05/2015 19:38, Gregory Casamento ha scritto:
>>>
>>> What I find most frustrating is the fact that we thought about doing
>>> this a long time ago. It's a lesson to me, at least, to act on my instincts.
>>> On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 13:25 Fred Kiefer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Great to see that you are taking this story with such good spirit.
>>>> This is something I like about GNUstep.
>>>>
>>>>  If you want to get more details from Microsoft here is a video
>>>> http://channel9.msdn.com/events/Build/2015/3-610
>>>> You will have to skip to minute 33 for the Objective C demo, before
>>>> that it is just some nice compiler changes.
>>>>
>>>>  Fred
>>>>
>>>> On the road
>>>>
>>>> Am 01.05.2015 um 10:27 schrieb Ivan Vučica <[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>>   That would be very surprising; why would they do that?
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> sent from phone
>>>> On May 1, 2015 09:26, "David Chisnall" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 30 Apr 2015, at 23:43, Fred Kiefer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On the other hand, I find it very frustrating to see how fast they
>>>>> implemented something that we have  been working on for years.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am led to believe that Microsoft employs some full-time developers.
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Sent from my IBM 1620
>>>>>
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