Given what is happening in MS land I really feel strongly that we need to take another look at doing this and making a Free/Open version of the UIKit.
GC On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 4:55 AM Luis Garcia Alanis <[email protected]> wrote: > On the vide http://channel9.msdn.com/events/Build/2015/3-610 > > at time 57:30 it seems to indicate that Ms is also working on a swift > compiler. > > On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 5:48 AM, Alessandro Sangiuliano < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> The interesting thing, in addition that MS made objective-c and a >> compatible framework with the Apple one, is to see how the swift situation >> will evolve. >> >> MS done this "port", because they don't have a large set of Apps in their >> store for mobile Windows, and the developers focusing Windows for phones >> were very few respect Android and iOS. This is a strategy to make easier >> the port of Apps from iOs to Windows (phone or how they call it), but I >> think this was quite obvious to all here. >> >> If this will have success, and windows (phone) will start to take is >> piece of the cake in the smartphone market, why a developer should choice >> swift respet objective-c? Swift for now runs only on Apple, obj-c runs on >> linux, *bsd, hurd and now "natively" (without mingw or other stuffs) also >> on Windows (phone and PCs, for what I saw from the video), and it is >> integrated in Visual Studio too. >> >> Will be Swift just a fan boys language? Who now if now the chaces to be >> released as open source are increased? And how much it will be usefull now, >> if it will be released? >> At last, Swift what has more than obj-c? They claim it is faster than >> obj-c. The only reason I was waiting for swift, was the hope to see it with >> a garbage collector instead of ARC, this not happened, and will not happen, >> I think, so for me became a useless language. >> >> Alex. >> >> >> Il 02/05/2015 19:38, Gregory Casamento ha scritto: >> >> What I find most frustrating is the fact that we thought about doing this >> a long time ago. It's a lesson to me, at least, to act on my instincts. >> On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 13:25 Fred Kiefer <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Great to see that you are taking this story with such good spirit. >>> This is something I like about GNUstep. >>> >>> If you want to get more details from Microsoft here is a video >>> http://channel9.msdn.com/events/Build/2015/3-610 >>> You will have to skip to minute 33 for the Objective C demo, before that >>> it is just some nice compiler changes. >>> >>> Fred >>> >>> On the road >>> >>> Am 01.05.2015 um 10:27 schrieb Ivan Vučica <[email protected]>: >>> >>> That would be very surprising; why would they do that? >>> >>> :-) >>> >>> sent from phone >>> On May 1, 2015 09:26, "David Chisnall" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On 30 Apr 2015, at 23:43, Fred Kiefer <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > On the other hand, I find it very frustrating to see how fast they >>>> implemented something that we have been working on for years. >>>> >>>> I am led to believe that Microsoft employs some full-time developers. >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> -- Sent from my IBM 1620 >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Discuss-gnustep mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss-gnustep mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss-gnustep mailing >> [email protected]https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss-gnustep mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep >> >> >
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