Strange.

Here's an email excerpt from an employee at Internic.ca:

"Thank you for your email.  The true expiry date of your domains will show
in
your master account.  As stated in our Terms of Service, we submit the
registrations for one year at a time to CIRA and then renew the domains each
year on its anniversary date.  For this reason, CIRA sends you a renewal
notice before the domain actually expires.  We apologize for any confusion
and/or inconvenience this may have caused you.
If you have any questions, please email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call us
at (613) 820-4374, 7am - 10pm EST, Monday to Friday."

Their terms and conditions can be found here:
http://www.internic.ca/terms.asp

Quoted excerpt:

"Should you select to purchase more than a one year term, each year on the
anniversary of the registration Internic.ca will pay on your behalf to the
registry the required registry fees until the term you have purchased
expires or Internic.ca is no longer your registrar"

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Joy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 2:13 PM
> To: dnsadmin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Keep renewal money but do not add it to the domain
>
>
> CIRA expressly forbids it in the Regsitration agreement, in the following
> passage:
>
> "On or after November 8, 2000, if an Applicant either selects a
> registration
> period of more than one (1) year or is charged by its Registrar
> on the basis
> of a registration period of more than one (1) year, then the Applicant�s
> Registrar must request registration of the domain name for the full period
> requested by the Applicant (or for which it was charged) and pay
> to CIRA the
> applicable Registration Fee for the full registration period selected or
> paid for by an Applicant at the time specified in these rules and
> procedures."
>
> The agreement can be found at:
> http://www.cira.ca/official-doc/24.RPPG_00011EN.doc
>
> I'm reasonably sure that Internic.ca is bound by it....but....word on the
> street is that CIRA has chosen not to enforce this rule. I don't get it...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ken
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of dnsadmin
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 4:41 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Keep renewal money but do not add it to the domain
> >
> >
> >
> > I recently become aware of a renewal method by Internic.ca for .CA
> > customers.
> >
> > 1. Customer buys a .CA domain for 2 years from Internic.ca
> > 2. Internic.ca registers the domain to expire in 1 year
> > 3. 11 months, 3 weeks pass
> > 4. Internic.ca renews the domain with CIRA for the additional year.
> >
> > If the customer in step 3 does a WHOIS and contacts Internic.ca
> about the
> > missing year, they get an email back saying that they shouldn't
> > worry - the
> > domain years are added once per year on the anniversary date.
> >
> > NOTES:
> > ======
> >
> > 1. I don't know what happens if the customer tries to transfer away from
> > Internic.ca during the first year period. I assume they will get
> > their extra
> > domain year back, but what what if they don't?
> >
> > 2. Could this be a new way to retain customers? Would ICANN
> disapprove of
> > this method for .COM renewals?  Basically you could charge your
> customers
> > that want more than 1 domain year ahead of time.
> >
> > You could then keep the money, and if they transfer to another
> registrar,
> > only the 1 domain year goes with the domain.
> >
> > Benefits would be:
> > ==================
> >
> > a) More money remains in your business account collecting interest
> >
> > b) Encourages customers to contact you to obtain a refund if
> they want to
> > transfer, thereby adding more red tape and making them say
> > "forget it, I'll
> > just stay with you -- it's not worth the hassle"
> >
> > c) Incase a customer does a credit card chargeback, the most
> you lose is 1
> > domain year since the remaining funds are still in your account. You can
> > always refund or allow the credit card company do a charge back
> since the
> > cash has not been spent on domain years yet.
> >
>
>

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