Interesting, given the measures they go to to enforce end user information 
accuracy. One would expect they would enforce rules even more strictly when 
so many more people could be affected. 

 -Eic 

Ken Joy writes: 

> CIRA expressly forbids it in the Regsitration agreement, in the following
> passage: 
> 
> "On or after November 8, 2000, if an Applicant either selects a registration
> period of more than one (1) year or is charged by its Registrar on the basis
> of a registration period of more than one (1) year, then the Applicant�s
> Registrar must request registration of the domain name for the full period
> requested by the Applicant (or for which it was charged) and pay to CIRA the
> applicable Registration Fee for the full registration period selected or
> paid for by an Applicant at the time specified in these rules and
> procedures." 
> 
> The agreement can be found at:
> http://www.cira.ca/official-doc/24.RPPG_00011EN.doc 
> 
> I'm reasonably sure that Internic.ca is bound by it....but....word on the
> street is that CIRA has chosen not to enforce this rule. I don't get it... 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Ken 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of dnsadmin
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 4:41 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Keep renewal money but do not add it to the domain 
>>
>> 
>>
>> I recently become aware of a renewal method by Internic.ca for .CA
>> customers. 
>>
>> 1. Customer buys a .CA domain for 2 years from Internic.ca
>> 2. Internic.ca registers the domain to expire in 1 year
>> 3. 11 months, 3 weeks pass
>> 4. Internic.ca renews the domain with CIRA for the additional year. 
>>
>> If the customer in step 3 does a WHOIS and contacts Internic.ca about the
>> missing year, they get an email back saying that they shouldn't
>> worry - the
>> domain years are added once per year on the anniversary date. 
>>
>> NOTES:
>> ====== 
>>
>> 1. I don't know what happens if the customer tries to transfer away from
>> Internic.ca during the first year period. I assume they will get
>> their extra
>> domain year back, but what what if they don't? 
>>
>> 2. Could this be a new way to retain customers? Would ICANN disapprove of
>> this method for .COM renewals?  Basically you could charge your customers
>> that want more than 1 domain year ahead of time. 
>>
>> You could then keep the money, and if they transfer to another registrar,
>> only the 1 domain year goes with the domain. 
>>
>> Benefits would be:
>> ================== 
>>
>> a) More money remains in your business account collecting interest 
>>
>> b) Encourages customers to contact you to obtain a refund if they want to
>> transfer, thereby adding more red tape and making them say
>> "forget it, I'll
>> just stay with you -- it's not worth the hassle" 
>>
>> c) Incase a customer does a credit card chargeback, the most you lose is 1
>> domain year since the remaining funds are still in your account. You can
>> always refund or allow the credit card company do a charge back since the
>> cash has not been spent on domain years yet. 
>>
> 
 


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