This is exactly what I was thinking..... I enjoy getting feedback from reasonable people on these issues....
Thanks, Ken > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eric Paynter > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 5:56 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Keep renewal money but do not add it to the domain > > > Interesting, given the measures they go to to enforce end user > information > accuracy. One would expect they would enforce rules even more > strictly when > so many more people could be affected. > > -Eic > > Ken Joy writes: > > > CIRA expressly forbids it in the Regsitration agreement, in the > following > > passage: > > > > "On or after November 8, 2000, if an Applicant either selects a > registration > > period of more than one (1) year or is charged by its Registrar > on the basis > > of a registration period of more than one (1) year, then the Applicant�s > > Registrar must request registration of the domain name for the > full period > > requested by the Applicant (or for which it was charged) and > pay to CIRA the > > applicable Registration Fee for the full registration period selected or > > paid for by an Applicant at the time specified in these rules and > > procedures." > > > > The agreement can be found at: > > http://www.cira.ca/official-doc/24.RPPG_00011EN.doc > > > > I'm reasonably sure that Internic.ca is bound by > it....but....word on the > > street is that CIRA has chosen not to enforce this rule. I > don't get it... > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ken > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of dnsadmin > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 4:41 PM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subject: Keep renewal money but do not add it to the domain > >> > >> > >> > >> I recently become aware of a renewal method by Internic.ca for .CA > >> customers. > >> > >> 1. Customer buys a .CA domain for 2 years from Internic.ca > >> 2. Internic.ca registers the domain to expire in 1 year > >> 3. 11 months, 3 weeks pass > >> 4. Internic.ca renews the domain with CIRA for the additional year. > >> > >> If the customer in step 3 does a WHOIS and contacts > Internic.ca about the > >> missing year, they get an email back saying that they shouldn't > >> worry - the > >> domain years are added once per year on the anniversary date. > >> > >> NOTES: > >> ====== > >> > >> 1. I don't know what happens if the customer tries to transfer > away from > >> Internic.ca during the first year period. I assume they will get > >> their extra > >> domain year back, but what what if they don't? > >> > >> 2. Could this be a new way to retain customers? Would ICANN > disapprove of > >> this method for .COM renewals? Basically you could charge > your customers > >> that want more than 1 domain year ahead of time. > >> > >> You could then keep the money, and if they transfer to another > registrar, > >> only the 1 domain year goes with the domain. > >> > >> Benefits would be: > >> ================== > >> > >> a) More money remains in your business account collecting interest > >> > >> b) Encourages customers to contact you to obtain a refund if > they want to > >> transfer, thereby adding more red tape and making them say > >> "forget it, I'll > >> just stay with you -- it's not worth the hassle" > >> > >> c) Incase a customer does a credit card chargeback, the most > you lose is 1 > >> domain year since the remaining funds are still in your > account. You can > >> always refund or allow the credit card company do a charge > back since the > >> cash has not been spent on domain years yet. > >> > > > > > > -- > arctic bears - email and name services > 25 email addresses@yourdomain CA$11.95/month > DNS starting at CA$3.49/month - domains from CA$25.95/year > for details contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://www.arcticbears.com
