On Fri, 17 May 2002, Derek J. Balling wrote:

> Would you support the same type of program for, say, abuse complaints
> to an ISP? If not, expound upon me the difference between the two?

Hey Derek -

I think what has me scratching my head is making sense of the
logic/motivation of challenging names in bulk where the only abuse
demonstrated is bad contact data...

The way I see it (MHO only) this is a great lever for use where there are
abusive related activities (SPAM, questionable content, etc...) and where
the registrant uses false WHOIS contact data as a defense to continue
operations. Perhaps I am missing something, but I do not see a real
prosecutable crime in bad WHOIS data alone. Certainly it should be
discouraged, and anyone who puts any value on their name registration is
foolish to intentionally roll the dice through intentional obscurity.

Also, there is an overhead in pursuing these matters. While we are happy
to pursue reports where there are supporting circumstances for a
challenge, we are cautious about the usefulness and cost of mass
challenges for no other reason than bad contact data.

Furthermore, unintentional bad contact data (as you must be aware) is the
hidden bane of our industry. It is rampant and common. Promoting an
environment where challenges are put forward regularly without supporting
circumstances would not serve many many registrants. The activities you
suggest strike me as against the spirit of the intended use of the clause.
An abuse of an abuse-reducing policy if you will.

To respond to your ISP analogy, the difference would be responding to
evidence (which should be done) and pursuing reports based on allegation
alone. Finally, as a challenger, I have no problem with a deposit
requirement to support my claim, provided I get it back if my claim is
proven to be valid.

Regards,

sA

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