fwiw, Bob Sutor is not a committer or on the incubator PMC or a member
of the ASF [1]. Here's the list of folks on the incubator PMC who will
vote on the proposal [2]

[1] http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html
[2] http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#incubator-pmc

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:17, Florian Effenberger
> <flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> Jim Jagielski wrote on 2011-06-06 18.06:
>>>>
>>>> The reality is that IBM employees wearing their IBM hats, have made it
>>>> >  crystal clear on the general@incubator list that IBM is going to force
>>>> >  The Apache Foundation to take the project.
>>>> >
>>>
>>> How?
>>
>> I am *not* saying you would be influenced or forced - I'd never doubt that
>> you are deciding independent. However, what people may give the feeling that
>> something's wrong are statements like these:
>>
>> http://www.sutor.com/c/2011/06/some-remarks-on-openoffice-going-to-apache/comment-page-1/#comment-5309
>>
>> "it is a done deal"
>>
>> That might create wrong impressions...
>
> I'll repeat what Jim said: how do you think IBM can force us to take
> the project? Bob can say whatever he'd like on his blog.
>
> The software grant is a "done deal". I happen to believe the proposal
> will be accepted, but it is not a "done deal".
>
> In any case... stop assuming that what *one* person says is
> representative of the entire (ASF) community. That simply isn't true.
>
> Cheers,
> -g
>
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