Don Harbison Program Director, IBM ODF Initiative Tel. +1-978-399-7018 Mobile: +1-978-761-0116 Email: donald_harbi...@us.ibm.com
Simon Phipps <si...@webmink.com> wrote on 06/08/2011 07:55:02 PM: > From: Simon Phipps <si...@webmink.com> > To: discuss@documentfoundation.org > Date: 06/08/2011 07:55 PM > Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join ApacheOpenOffice > > > On 9 Jun 2011, at 00:43, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > > > > On Jun 8, 2011, at 6:32 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > >>> > >>> Certainly being an independent, legally established foundation is > >>> critical, isn't it, as compare to one which is "just" a legally > >>> established one? Not saying that TDF isn't at all, but the > >>> 'independent' part is important. > >> > >> Not really hugely important, as long as everything is open to > scrutiny and beyond the control of any interested party - > transparency is the key, just like it is at Apache. Any organisation > can be gamed - it's a function of having rules, since "every system > of rules contains within it the game that plays it and ultimately > subverts it"[1]. But it will indeed be good when TDF is able to > complete the bootstrap process so the innuendo can stop. > > > > Agreed... the only reason I mention "independent" is that even > > a clearly independent foundation such as the ASF has been alluded > > to be in cahoots with IBM/Oracle regarding all this, so I'm sure > > that TDF will get the same amount of scrutiny and baseless > > claims, and being able to point to their independence will nip > > that in the bud. > > I'm always amused when Apache is accused of collaborating with any > corporate entity - it's obviously almost impossible for that happen. > The problem is not collaboration; it's gameability, and all rule- > based and transparent entities eventually suffer from it once they > are fully understood by those most likely to benefit from doing so. Is there something useful to be said here? If so, what is it? Non-sequitur? > S. > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
