FLOCK is a nice term; but we should try to simplify, not complexify. Common knowledge is the original form of knowledge. The more you attach descriptors to it, the more (counterintuitively) you constrain what people think of as shared knowledge.
SJ On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Karl Fogel <[email protected]> wrote: > Chris Sakkas <[email protected]> writes: >>one). I do think IP is a coherent (albeit wrongly named) category in >>the sense that there are criteria that are satisfied by those within >>the category and not satisfied by those outside the category >>(specifically, all forms of IP are (a) de jure monopolies on (b) >>non-rivalrous intangibles). Of course, the criticism that it is – for >>most purposes – an overbroad category is a fair one. > > Trademarks are rivalrous :-). > >>'Ransom method' >> >>Thanks for your suggestions. I'll use 'threshold pledge system' as the >>general term, and then suggest street performer protocol, ransom >>publishing model, copyright buy-out, compensation and patronage as >>synonyms/subcategories of it. > > The "Threshold Pledge" system was a term originally used to describe > what many people would now call the Kickstarter model: an artist says > they want to do X and it will cost $N; people pledge various amounts > until $N (or a slightly higher number) is reached; then the pledges are > collected, perhaps by an intermediary; the artist produces X and is paid > either at the start, in installments as progress is made, or in a lump > sum at the end; X is then released to the public under a free license. > > Kickstarter does not require a free license on the result, of course, > but otherwise it uses exactly the Threshold Pledge System. > > The mutual-assurance component (i.e., that people send pledges first, > not donations, and then the pledges are "called in" only if a certain > threshold is reached) was actually only described obliquely in the > original Street Performer Protocol (Ransom model) paper [1] -- they > present it in the form of insurance against the artist not delivering, > rather than as threshold agreement with the other pledgers. Due to this > and other differences, I've always been a bit uncomfortable that the two > systems are lumped together under Threshold Pledge, even though they are > similar (and, in some formal mathematical sense, perhaps the same). > > Copyright buy-out is something that can be funded by money raised in a > Threshold Pledge manner, but then again a rich patron could just buy out > a copyright and liberate a work too -- the funding mechanism by which > copyright buy-out happens is separate from the copyright buy-out itself. > (See also the Declared Value buy-out system [2], which is related.) > > I'm not sure that compensation and patronage, as traditionally > understood, have anything to do with the Threshold Pledge system (well, > "compensation" isn't a method at all, it's just a word for the act of > payment for some service or product). > > HTH, > -Karl > > [1] http://www.schneier.com/paper-street-performer.pdf > [2] http://falkvinge.net/2012/12/10/declared-value-system/ > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss
