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On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Karl Fogel
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Chris Sakkas <[email protected]> writes:

> Trademarks are always rivalrous, no matter what party is using them nor
> whether it's for mere "nominative use" or something else.  The point of
> a trademark is in its association with the thing it refers to.  So when
> someone starts using it to refer to something else, its value decreases.

It's not so simple :)  Few things are purely rivalrous or non-rivalrous.

Marks are compact identifier art, and convey association and
connotation to readers.
Other creative works are usually longer-form art, and convey ideas,
experiences, associations, and connotations to readers.  The two
occupy different areas of creative-work-space, but their differences
can be described without reducing them to dichotomies.

A malicious actor can decrease the value of either one.
Other factors, including where they fall on the
uniqueness-universality spectrum, can also modify their value.

> I could put a halaal certification group's logo on pork.  Now I've diluted 
> the value of that
> mark, because I've diluted its *meaning*.

Yes.  I can also take "Das Lied der Deutschen" and a famous Haydn
musical poem, and turn them into "Deutschlandlied", making it a German
national anthem.  Now I have forever changed the *meaning* of those
two works of art -- each with its own very different origin -- for all
modern experiences.  Then I can further go on to use that anthem
widely in the context of a world war, and all of the pomp and ceremony
of a military government, and again - through copying, broadcasting,
and reassociation - change its meaning for any future listeners.

> Thus trademarks are only useful to the extent that they are rivalrous.

Not so.  In many cases, the value and use of trademarks increase as
they are [re]used.  Both when they are used 'as intended' by the
creators of that art, to identify a narrowly defined subject -- and
when they are used as satire, or to describe similar (even competing!)
products.

The Xerox, Kleenex, and Coke brands are in some ways reduced, in
others changed, in still others burnished and enhanced by becoming
'generic' and universal, entering into the dictionary.  Those marks
are useful even when used in 'non-rivalrous' ways.   Google's colorful
and creative mark is enhanced by encouraging small and large
variations on that theme, both formally blessed as doodles and
otherwise.  And that's just in the boring world of corporate marks.

Human names are enhanced and spread throughout history by being
modified, copied, and remixed. Even the Smurfs managed only to earn
their mark and identity an eternal smurf in Smurf smurf through the
prolific smurfing of the various smurfs.

SJ
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