> On Sep 22, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Brad Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
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> "I can mix Linux and Windows virtually on the same hardware but I cannot mix 
> CDDL."

This is bullshit, please don't feed the troll.
 -- richard

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> I'm probably confused but where does it say this can't happen. From my 
> reading, the CDDL is open to working with software that is licensed under 
> different terms. It doesn't prevent it.
> 
> -brad w.
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> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Spam Spammerson <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Your problem is not technical but legal.  CDDL is a big risk for hosting 
> companies.  Microsoft and FSF have legal support providing  correspondence 
> and discussion of their licenses.  I have court-proven protections with Linux 
> and Windows.  For example, I can mix Linux and Windows virtually on the same 
> hardware but I cannot mix CDDL.  CDDL would require a dedicated and 
> physically isolated backplane all the way to the edge routers.  As Garrett 
> mentions this is a costly endevor.
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> Illuminos and related products related to CDDL are poison.  CDDL questions 
> get no answers.  GPL started the same way.  You kids may not remember what a 
> nightmare GNU was in the 80's.  There were a number of legal battles involved 
> before it was accepted for commercial use.
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> From: Garrett D'Amore [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 11:38 AM
> To: Gabriele Bulfon
> Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [discuss] illumos hosting offerings
> 
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> 
> XStreamOS sounds interesting... but you know the market for illumos OS 
> distributions is *tiny*.  Will there be interest?  Yes.   Will it be enough 
> to justify the effort you're going to put into it?  Probably not.  At least 
> that's my guess.  I'd be happy to be proven wrong though.
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> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 8:09 AM, Gabriele Bulfon <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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> Well, it's not exactly for open source activities, at the moment.
> 
> We need to move zones where we run our html5/web enterprise collaboration
> 
> (think of it as an office365 replacement, but all opensource based, all 
> xstreamos based, all web based interface written by us).
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> We're thinking about releasing an open / free / ready-to-use distro of 
> XStreamOS Collaboration, with all this stuff.
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> Do you think anyone out there may be interested?
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> Da: Garrett D'Amore <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> A: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Data: 22 settembre 2015 16.58.17 CEST
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> Oggetto: Re: [discuss] illumos hosting offerings
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> My employer Lucera offers illumos hosting but it's pretty pricey as we 
> specialize our offerings for the financial market with hosting in NY4, LD4, 
> and CH2. These are the data centers used by traders on Wall Street and in 
> London. The systems run recent smartos on higher end boxes with low latency 
> connectivity to many financial institutions.
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> However if the need is in support of illumos open source activities let me 
> know. We can probably arrange to make services available at no charge for 
> those cases - do have to confirm that with management and I'd need more 
> details of the need to do so. 
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Sep 22, 2015, at 7:15 AM, Gabriele Bulfon <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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> Thanks, I found CloudSigma, Switzerland, seems a good option.
> 
> They opened a trial account for me, but I had problem booting the CD.
> 
> First time it worked, but I had no virtio support, so I had to stop and 
> restart with HD in ide mode.
> 
> No way to run it anymore, in any way, not even starting from scratch in 
> virtio mode.
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> Is there any particular option I must let them know to allow kvm run illumos 
> guests?
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> 
> Gabriele
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> Da: Peter Tribble <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> A: discuss <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
> Data: 22 settembre 2015 11.19.46 CEST
> Oggetto: Re: [discuss] illumos hosting offerings
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> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Gabriele Bulfon <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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> Hi,
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> 
> looks like impossible to find a hosting provider to run an illumos distro of 
> my own on their virtualization infrastructure.
> 
> Everybody wants you to run their windows or linux machines.
> 
> I need some virtualized XStreamOS machines running around, but I can't find 
> one allowing me to use my own iso install.
> 
>  
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> Why?
> 
> Do you have any durable solution to this (a part from housing your own 
> hardware, something we already do...)?
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> 
> There are a few. I've run both OmniOS and Tribblix on Bytemark
> 
> https://www.bytemark.co.uk/ <https://www.bytemark.co.uk/>
> Specifically the page
> 
> https://www.bytemark.co.uk/hosting/bigv/ 
> <https://www.bytemark.co.uk/hosting/bigv/>
> and their support is really good too. (They love people who run "unusual" 
> things.
> When running Tribblix I found a bug in their DHCP implementation and they just
> got straight back to me and fixed it, and were delighted I had found it.)
> 
> There are a number of other companies set up the same way, exposing raw
> qemu/KVM, which I've heard good things about but haven't tried personally. Eg.
> 
> Vultr
> 
> https://www.vultr.com/features/ <https://www.vultr.com/features/>
> If you could create an XStreamOS dataset for SmartOS, then you could
> 
> use presumably Joyent or another SDC provider such as vrocket.io 
> <http://vrocket.io/>
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> -Peter Tribble
> http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ <http://www.petertribble.co.uk/> - 
> http://ptribble.blogspot.com/ <http://ptribble.blogspot.com/>
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