Your problem is not technical but legal. CDDL is a big risk for hosting
companies. Microsoft and FSF have legal support providing correspondence and
discussion of their licenses. I have court-proven protections with Linux and
Windows. For example, I can mix Linux and Windows virtually on the same
hardware but I cannot mix CDDL. CDDL would require a dedicated and physically
isolated backplane all the way to the edge routers. As Garrett mentions this
is a costly endevor.
Illuminos and related products related to CDDL are poison. CDDL questions get
no answers. GPL started the same way. You kids may not remember what a
nightmare GNU was in the 80's. There were a number of legal battles involved
before it was accepted for commercial use.
From: Garrett D'Amore [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 11:38 AM
To: Gabriele Bulfon
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [discuss] illumos hosting offerings
XStreamOS sounds interesting... but you know the market for illumos OS
distributions is *tiny*. Will there be interest? Yes. Will it be enough to
justify the effort you're going to put into it? Probably not. At least that's
my guess. I'd be happy to be proven wrong though.
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 8:09 AM, Gabriele Bulfon <[email protected]> wrote:
Well, it's not exactly for open source activities, at the moment.
We need to move zones where we run our html5/web enterprise collaboration
(think of it as an office365 replacement, but all opensource based, all
xstreamos based, all web based interface written by us).
We're thinking about releasing an open / free / ready-to-use distro of
XStreamOS Collaboration, with all this stuff.
Do you think anyone out there may be interested?
_____
Da: Garrett D'Amore <[email protected]>
A: [email protected]
Data: 22 settembre 2015 16.58.17 CEST
Oggetto: Re: [discuss] illumos hosting offerings
My employer Lucera offers illumos hosting but it's pretty pricey as we
specialize our offerings for the financial market with hosting in NY4, LD4, and
CH2. These are the data centers used by traders on Wall Street and in London.
The systems run recent smartos on higher end boxes with low latency
connectivity to many financial institutions.
However if the need is in support of illumos open source activities let me
know. We can probably arrange to make services available at no charge for those
cases - do have to confirm that with management and I'd need more details of
the need to do so.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 22, 2015, at 7:15 AM, Gabriele Bulfon <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks, I found CloudSigma, Switzerland, seems a good option.
They opened a trial account for me, but I had problem booting the CD.
First time it worked, but I had no virtio support, so I had to stop and restart
with HD in ide mode.
No way to run it anymore, in any way, not even starting from scratch in virtio
mode.
Is there any particular option I must let them know to allow kvm run illumos
guests?
Gabriele
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Da: Peter Tribble <[email protected]>
A: discuss <[email protected]>
Data: 22 settembre 2015 11.19.46 CEST
Oggetto: Re: [discuss] illumos hosting offerings
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Gabriele Bulfon <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
looks like impossible to find a hosting provider to run an illumos distro of my
own on their virtualization infrastructure.
Everybody wants you to run their windows or linux machines.
I need some virtualized XStreamOS machines running around, but I can't find one
allowing me to use my own iso install.
Why?
Do you have any durable solution to this (a part from housing your own
hardware, something we already do...)?
There are a few. I've run both OmniOS and Tribblix on Bytemark
https://www.bytemark.co.uk/
Specifically the page
https://www.bytemark.co.uk/hosting/bigv/
and their support is really good too. (They love people who run "unusual"
things.
When running Tribblix I found a bug in their DHCP implementation and they just
got straight back to me and fixed it, and were delighted I had found it.)
There are a number of other companies set up the same way, exposing raw
qemu/KVM, which I've heard good things about but haven't tried personally. Eg.
Vultr
https://www.vultr.com/features/
If you could create an XStreamOS dataset for SmartOS, then you could
use presumably Joyent or another SDC provider such as vrocket.io
--
-Peter Tribble
http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/
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