well crap, I guess I'll have to delete all those embedded Linux instances that the ILOM & XCSCFs run on in all of my SPARC gear. what a waste of licensing!
> On Sep 22, 2015, at 8:38 PM, Richard Elling > <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> On Sep 22, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Brad Walker <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> "I can mix Linux and Windows virtually on the same hardware but I cannot mix >> CDDL." > > This is bullshit, please don't feed the troll. > -- richard > >> >> I'm probably confused but where does it say this can't happen. From my >> reading, the CDDL is open to working with software that is licensed under >> different terms. It doesn't prevent it. >> >> -brad w. >> >> >>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Spam Spammerson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Your problem is not technical but legal. CDDL is a big risk for hosting >>> companies. Microsoft and FSF have legal support providing correspondence >>> and discussion of their licenses. I have court-proven protections with >>> Linux and Windows. For example, I can mix Linux and Windows virtually on >>> the same hardware but I cannot mix CDDL. CDDL would require a dedicated >>> and physically isolated backplane all the way to the edge routers. As >>> Garrett mentions this is a costly endevor. >>> >>> >>> >>> Illuminos and related products related to CDDL are poison. CDDL questions >>> get no answers. GPL started the same way. You kids may not remember what >>> a nightmare GNU was in the 80's. There were a number of legal battles >>> involved before it was accepted for commercial use. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Garrett D'Amore [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 11:38 AM >>> To: Gabriele Bulfon >>> Cc: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [discuss] illumos hosting offerings >>> >>> >>> >>> XStreamOS sounds interesting... but you know the market for illumos OS >>> distributions is *tiny*. Will there be interest? Yes. Will it be enough >>> to justify the effort you're going to put into it? Probably not. At least >>> that's my guess. I'd be happy to be proven wrong though. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 8:09 AM, Gabriele Bulfon <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Well, it's not exactly for open source activities, at the moment. >>> >>> We need to move zones where we run our html5/web enterprise collaboration >>> >>> (think of it as an office365 replacement, but all opensource based, all >>> xstreamos based, all web based interface written by us). >>> >>> >>> >>> We're thinking about releasing an open / free / ready-to-use distro of >>> XStreamOS Collaboration, with all this stuff. >>> >>> Do you think anyone out there may be interested? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Da: Garrett D'Amore <[email protected]> >>> A: [email protected] >>> Data: 22 settembre 2015 16.58.17 CEST >>> >>> >>> Oggetto: Re: [discuss] illumos hosting offerings >>> >>> >>> >>> My employer Lucera offers illumos hosting but it's pretty pricey as we >>> specialize our offerings for the financial market with hosting in NY4, LD4, >>> and CH2. These are the data centers used by traders on Wall Street and in >>> London. The systems run recent smartos on higher end boxes with low latency >>> connectivity to many financial institutions. >>> >>> >>> >>> However if the need is in support of illumos open source activities let me >>> know. We can probably arrange to make services available at no charge for >>> those cases - do have to confirm that with management and I'd need more >>> details of the need to do so. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 7:15 AM, Gabriele Bulfon <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks, I found CloudSigma, Switzerland, seems a good option. >>> >>> They opened a trial account for me, but I had problem booting the CD. >>> >>> First time it worked, but I had no virtio support, so I had to stop and >>> restart with HD in ide mode. >>> >>> No way to run it anymore, in any way, not even starting from scratch in >>> virtio mode. >>> >>> >>> >>> Is there any particular option I must let them know to allow kvm run >>> illumos guests? >>> >>> >>> >>> Gabriele >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Da: Peter Tribble <[email protected]> >>> A: discuss <[email protected]> >>> Data: 22 settembre 2015 11.19.46 CEST >>> Oggetto: Re: [discuss] illumos hosting offerings >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Gabriele Bulfon <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> looks like impossible to find a hosting provider to run an illumos distro >>> of my own on their virtualization infrastructure. >>> >>> Everybody wants you to run their windows or linux machines. >>> >>> I need some virtualized XStreamOS machines running around, but I can't find >>> one allowing me to use my own iso install. >>> >>> >>> >>> Why? >>> >>> Do you have any durable solution to this (a part from housing your own >>> hardware, something we already do...)? >>> >>> >>> >>> There are a few. I've run both OmniOS and Tribblix on Bytemark >>> >>> https://www.bytemark.co.uk/ >>> >>> Specifically the page >>> >>> https://www.bytemark.co.uk/hosting/bigv/ >>> >>> and their support is really good too. (They love people who run "unusual" >>> things. >>> When running Tribblix I found a bug in their DHCP implementation and they >>> just >>> got straight back to me and fixed it, and were delighted I had found it.) >>> >>> There are a number of other companies set up the same way, exposing raw >>> qemu/KVM, which I've heard good things about but haven't tried personally. >>> Eg. >>> >>> Vultr >>> >>> https://www.vultr.com/features/ >>> >>> If you could create an XStreamOS dataset for SmartOS, then you could >>> >>> use presumably Joyent or another SDC provider such as vrocket.io >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> -Peter Tribble >>> http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> illumos-discuss | Archives | Modify Your Subscription > > illumos-discuss | Archives | Modify Your Subscription ------------------------------------------- illumos-discuss Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/182180/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/182180/21175430-2e6923be Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21175430&id_secret=21175430-6a77cda4 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
