exactly joshua. the thing of it is that if you already have a computer that runs illumos today you are golden. if you buy a new computer that wont run illumos on the metal do not despair. with virtualization you can still run illumos in a guest. with virtual box you can do this on any mainstream OS for free. this comes with a small performance penalty but most people are unlikely to find this problematic.
and as joshua said - i am not opposed to people working on desktop support - i just am unlikely to bother with it myself absent economic incentive. i am however absolutely unwilling to subject our community to excessive abuse for any technical need - least of all for a vanish niche use case. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 21, 2016, at 3:35 PM, Joshua M. Clulow <j...@sysmgr.org> wrote: > > On 21 August 2016 at 15:26, Bob Friesenhahn > <bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us> wrote: >> On Sun, 21 Aug 2016, Garrett D'Amore wrote: >>> the thing of it is - illumos is never going to compete in this space. >>> unixish under the hood systems like linux and macos sure. but the market >>> doesnt really want or need another competitor here and even if we wanted to >>> compete we would be at a disadvantage against other options like freebsd. >>> the best we could hope for is to make the gap less severe. >> >> There is too much talk of winners and losers, and not enough about the >> users. >> >> Please don't make me have to use another computer just to type in my >> source code. > > For what it's worth, I agree that it's unlikely to be exciting from an > economic point of view to do illumos on the desktop. > > But as long as I don't have to be the one working on it, I'm obviously > happy for it to exist! I agree that there's little point in talking > about winners or losers. Garrett is expressing his opinion, but > obviously not _prohibiting_ desktop (or mobile, or embedded, or > whatever) illumos from existing. > > Resource availability is really the key. If enough capable people > want it to exist, then exist it shall; if not, it won't. If you can > find people to work on support for desktop hardware and software, even > in their spare time: more power to you! > > Cheers. > > -- > Joshua M. Clulow > UNIX Admin/Developer > http://blog.sysmgr.org > ------------------------------------------- illumos-discuss Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/182180/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/182180/21175430-2e6923be Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21175430&id_secret=21175430-6a77cda4 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com