Jack: No, I must disagree. It's only different Yep - having been a graphic designer early in my career, it is difficult (if not impossible) for me to imagine practicing interaction design without those visual thinking tools.
Hey Brian, when I was running my company, we participated in the co-op program with Cincinnati. What a fantastic approach. There is no substitute for time spent actually doing the work in the real world! On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Brian Herzfeldt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it can be done well. However a with a four year program would > preclude a lot of students financially so there would have to be some kinf > non gov subsidation. Maybe something like the design co-op program in > Cincinnati. I went to IIT Institute of Design and three years about killed > me both emotionally and financially. Not sure I could have done four at > that level of intensity :) but then again I was in mid 30's and couldn't > pull the all nighter like I could in my 20's. > > I believe you could get a well rounded education in 3-4 years. Basics of > design, some research and prototyping skills, teams skills, learning the > tools then a big dose of UI/IxD. I like the co-op idea because design school > prepares you to do the thinking and the basic skills to do the work but > fails in preparing one for doing that work in the context of a real > business. There is so much more to learn about executing design projects > that you just don't get exposed to until you are out there in it. This might > be one reason its tough for new graduates as its tough, unless you are lucky > enough to have prior design work experience, to really be able to hit the > ground running. > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:59 AM, mark schraad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > A couple of thoughts on this topic... > > A few years ago I was doing research in the retail pharma industry. At > > that > > time the standard degree for a pharmacist changed from 5 years to 6 > > years. > > The effect was that the demand for pharmacist went through the roof > > (partly > > due to a year with no new graduates), and the market value of a > > pharmacist > > went through the roof... and has pretty much stayed there. > > > > If there was a 4 year degree for IX, would it have the opposite effect > > in > > our industry? The masters graduates from CMU and IIT are in very high > > demand > > - even before graduation. Talking with faculty, there are companies > > lobbying > > for them to increase class size. > > > > So the question is, would an undergraduate standard be good for our > > profession? > > > > Second question... Can it be done well? Interaction design is more > > demanding > > than say, graphic design. Can you get a balanced design education in a > > four > > year degree with the addition of social science, cognitive science... > > and > > research? Any current design faculty want to take a shot at this? > > > > Mark > > > > On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:32:58, dave malouf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Jack, > > > > > > YES! YES! YES! > > > > > > The only undergrad program I know of is a minor of IxD as part of > > > their Industrial Design program at SCAD. > > > > > > I'd love to hear about other programs no matter how tangential (in > > > this case), but DESIGN SCHOOL, not HCI programs from CompSci or > > > CogPsy programs. > > > > > > There might be some good media & design programs around, but since > > > they don't talk up IxD they are hard to identify. > > > > > > What keeps these programs which are in such obvious need (I mean the > > > job market discussions and lack of Jr. talent should be a huge > > > indicator of need.) > > > > > > Why is it assumed that IxD is relegated to the masters degree level? > > > > > > -- dave > > > > > > > > > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > Posted from the new ixda.org > > > http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=26528 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! > > > To post to this list ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe > > > List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines > > > List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! > > To post to this list ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe > > List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines > > List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help > > > > ________________________________________________________________ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help
