Hi again Michael,

Mike Z makes some great points in his post and reminded me that in fact
I was accepted on a conditional basis.  Mike also makes suggests getting
in touch with people in the department. Great idea. Get someone on your
side.  They may not be able to get you in, but it always helps to have
an advocate and someone who can suggest possibilities for getting what
you want. It's true that schools and their staff want people who are
truly interested in what they offer. It is doable.

You story sounds very familiar. It felt like I had to go through hoops
several years ago to get into grad school. Feel free to contact me
off-list if you'd like to chat more.  

Pat Barford M.Ed

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Mike Zarro
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Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] getting into a master's program when you
havepoorundergraduate grades?

Michael,

With your years of professional experience, the undergrad GPA becomes a
smaller part of the overall admissions equation than it would for
someone just out of school. Admissions staff, professors, etc... are all
looking for ways to help you succeed. Can you contact someone at the
school(s) you're most interested in attending and discuss the issue?
If/when you do apply, I would suggest you emphasize in the essay and
through your references your dedication to learning and advancement in
the field.

Likely you would be accepted to a program on a conditional basis -
meaning if your graduate GPA isn't at a certain level after a semester
or two, you would be asked to leave the school.

If you think proving academic success would help you get into the school
of your choice, perhaps it's possible to enter a certificate program,
then apply that coursework towards a Master's degree?

good luck!
mz

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Barford, Patricia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>  HI Michael,
>
> I found myself in a similar situation a few years ago.  I had to take 
> courses to prove I wasn't an idiot before being admitted to grad
school.
> (The penalty for having too much fun as an undergrad.)  Are there no 
> courses you can take to earn your entry, that would fit with the 
> program you want?  I was able to take core courses to get in, then had

> way more interesting options to choose from within the program. Take 
> anything you can that will put you further down the path you want to 
> take. Even if you can't take courses from the program, there have to 
> be some that will benefit you along the way.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Pat Barford M.Ed
>
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