*Todd*, if any credit is lost it would have to be my users and I would never put the blame on them. Attacking someone's credit is a low-political blow when people don't want to debate any more and are looking for a way to be right. Many revolutionist appear to have low-credit because they believe in their agenda. I don't have to Google you, don't be insecure. I have many IA friends who are experts and wont appear in Google.
*Jack *in many ways you are saying the same thing I am. You are right that my solutions don't apply everywhere else. Like I said, I'm not making the rule, my users do. Again, best practices mean nothing when your users are saying different. I always make my designs with best practices in place, but I leave room for change and innovation from User-testing results. There are times when I actually do put 'Next' on the right, but it's not by my own doing- it's based on feedback from tests. And no your not ganging up on me, I love these conversations. At the end of the day I'll forget about it look forward to a home-cooked dinner from my awesome wife. She always puts the fork on the right-side, but we all know that the fork goes on the left. Have a fantastic day gentlemen, feel free to respond, I'll be waiting...Muhuhuhhahahahahahaa! On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:07 AM, Jack Leon Moffett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > On Sep 17, 2008, at 7:41 PM, Brett Lutchman wrote: > > Ok everyone jump on the bandwagon we're leaving in 10 minutes. >> > > Hey, I'm not trying to gang up on you, Brett. I was already sitting on the > bus when you stepped on. I'm sorry if I offended, but it sounded as if you > were brushing everyone off that was disagreeing by saying, "well, you're all > designing websites, and that's different." I think the issue is pretty > fundamental. > > > Another 100 people could jump in the convo and say the same about the >> Previous being on the left and Next on the right, it's not going to change >> the my past usability tests and a decade of interaction design experience- >> although I will always be a student of usability. >> > > I wasn't trying to convince you that you're wrong. You know your users > better than I do. But your test results and experience don't mean that your > solution applies everywhere else. > > > A common mistake that many amateur North American usability 'experts' make >> is assuming everyone goes from left to right. >> > > I think the majority of us probably are aware that the left to right, top > to bottom flow only applies to cultures that read in that direction. The > users of all of the applications I have designed thus far happen to fall > into that bucket. > > > Whether the Next link is an actual button and the Previous is a hyperlink, >> it is commonly already understood that the user knows that some form of >> moving forward is at the bottom. If they look bottom/right and see that it's >> not there, Low and Behold, they simply look to the left and the Next button >> smacks them right in the face...no harm done and the user simply moves on. >> > > But isn't that a break in the flow as you're trying to avoid? For many of > us, that would be the flow for the majority of our users. > > > Especially when a form is Left Justified for readability, users will >> naturally look to the left to proceed forward. >> > > I must disagree. Perhaps your users do, but I cannot believe that this is > in any way "natural" for "North American" users. There would have to be > other elements at play to direct the user's attention. > > Speaking of top and bottom, I just happened to think of a UI I designed not > long ago that placed the previous and next buttons above the content. Why? > Because that was the place that made the most sense for them given the rest > of the UI. Of course, in that particular case, they were not the primary > means of navigation. > > There are many things that can influence the direction of attention. I > would suggest that reading direction is a good starting place for deciding > where to place previous and next buttons, but the designer must consider all > of the influences to determine the best location. > > Best, > Jack > > > > > > > > Jack L. Moffett > Interaction Designer > inmedius > 412.459.0310 x219 > http://www.inmedius.com > > > Design is like California. > No one is born there. > > -Dick Buchanan > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! > To post to this list ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe > List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines > List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help > -- Brett Lutchman Web Slinger. ________________________________________________________________ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help
