On 06/08/13 12:50, Derek Balling wrote:
On Aug 6, 2013, at 7:33 AM, "Edward Ned Harvey (lopser)" <[email protected]> 
wrote:
So I'm acknowledging that the Canon Inkjet and the HP Laserjet are both low 
cost, reliable, fully featured.  The thing that to me is a differentiator, is 
as follows:

Canon PIXMA driver, including network print, scan, fax:  24MB
HP Laserjet 276nw driver: They say 47MB for basic, or 110MB for full featured.

My experience so far (maybe this is the first exception) is that HP printers 
come with completely overblown invasive driver software, that constantly 
harasses you to do upgrades and tries to install with parasite software like 
bing bar and ask toolbar and junk like that.  Maybe that basic driver is good 
enough nowadays - maybe they've finally turned a corner.  But I'm certainly not 
giving them credit or assuming they've improved.
I can speak only to the Mac drivers, but I've not found the HP drivers to be 
"invasive" at all. But the full-featured driver is fairly nice (print-to-fax, 
proactive notice of needing toner, etc.).

Some other differentiators are:

        +HP             the HP has a higher PPM count (especially on color, 
less so on B/W),
        +CANON  the Canon has a higher print resolution for color printing
        +CANON  higher scanning resolution
        +HP(?)  "Scan to Email" is a hellishly nice feature that I don't see 
listed on the Canon, but I'll concede might exist
        +HP             Toner doesn't smudge, really (At least not NEARLY on 
the scale that inkjet ink does).

The reality is I think - as you say - both fairly reliable full-featured 
devices. Depending on where a person's particular needs lie, either of them 
could be a great solution.

D

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Hi,

My use-case is budget home office Linux colour printing. I have a B&W Brother laser printer for printing in bulk. I have a Fujitsu SnapScan for bulk scanning. This is for low volume colour printing, for hard copy of the occasional photo, for scanning "off the glass" for bulky originals, and for "photo-copying" without needing to power up a PC. No requirement for faxing. Printing from Android is a bonus. Duplex is a requirement.

I've had one bad experience with an HP all-in-one, which broke when it was 53 weeks old. A quick Google revealed it was a known problem. HP had redesigned some gear wheels, and changed the model number. HP's attitude was "bad luck". On the other hand I had an old Laserjet 1100, and when it started feeding multiple sheets, HP had a free retrofit kit to replace the pads.

I remember the days when inkjets dried up when not used. But my experience with Canon at least, suggests those days are long gone. I can see the advantage of colour laser printers, but they are mostly too bulky, and I'm not sure they would produce good photos. Horses for courses, as they say.

For my old Pixma (c. 2006?) I had to buy a Linux driver from Turboprint, but with later releases it has "just worked". In its new home, it worked out of the box on Linux, but required a download from Canon to get it working on a Mac. My pecking order for vendors would be (1) those who ensure their printers work "out of the box" with (Debian) Linux; (2) downloadable Debian drivers from the vendor; (3) third party drivers. Ditto for scanner support. And ditto for OS X support.

I guess that prices in the US are cheaper than the UK. www.amazon.co.uk will give you a good idea of pricing here.

Thanks!

Jonathan.

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