There was a comment that we need to do this before someone else does it
for/to us.  Who is this someone else?  Why would they do this?  Are
ther goals/motifs in line with LOPSA or where do they differ?   How
far along in this path may they be?  

IF they exist, why are we not working with them to come up with
something meaningful/useful/acceptable to all of us.

More importantly, if they DO NOT exist, why not?  If this group is
the only one talking about this, there is a bigger problem.  Who really
cares?  LOPSA and Usenix organizations are tiny.  This past summer I
attended the "Service-Now" "Knowledge13" conference in Vegas.  I don't
remember the actual attendee count, but it was something over 4000 people
with about 6000 expected at next years conference. For a "new" conference
focused around 1 software package, this is huge.  By comparison, there
is almost no buzz around system administration.

So back to topic..
Every couple years this issue comes up in some form.  In the past it's
been about "certifications" and attempting to come up with some
standards and tests.  To have tests, you need to have something to 
study.  A body of knowledge.  There have been a few minor steps in
this direction, but it quickly falls out to the back of other things
needing to get done, then forgotten and out of date.  My feeling
the thread this time is called Professionalization instead
of Certification, but it's the same core issues.  So..

while (1) {
  bring up subject
  argue for a few weeks to months
  do nothing for longer
  }

What's going to be different this time around?

--Gene

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