I think I've made it clear I'm not bashing the idea. I *love* the idea,
I've said so before a number of times now.
I'm just saying not to focus on "Chapter" (which, per the LOPSA by-laws,
has a very specific definition and set of requirements) and just focus on
"The Content".
D
On May 9, 2014, at 1:32 PM, john boris <[email protected]> wrote:
"Chapters", "Hangouts", Meetups, beer bashes, call it whatever you want.
Martin is just trying to work within our current structure. We are in a
technology that is constantly changing the landscape and the language.
So in the onset they are called Virtual Chapters but later they may be
called something else. At least he is trying to do something to stay
with the times and the Technology. Why beat him up or trash the idea.
The idea of this is that a "Virtual" Anything is what he is looking for
and someone in the group to stand up and say "Yes I will do that"
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Derek Balling <[email protected]>
wrote:
I feel like I can't stay out of this.
Why do I need a chapter to schedule hangouts at 7ET, while Mario[1]
schedules some hangouts for 7PT? And if Doug Hughes[2] decides he's
staying up late tonight, he can "attend" Mario's 7PT session, even
though he's on the east coast.
Again - you're talking about something that needs organizers, but not
necessarily "chapters".
D
[1] I'm not volunteering Mario. :-)
[2] Nor do I believe Doug Hughes would ever stay up late. He's like
the crotchety old man asleep by 8, get off my lawn.
On May 9, 2014, at 1:21 PM, john boris <[email protected]> wrote:
The one advantage I see to having multiple Virtual Chapters is time
zones. So an organizer on the West coast decides to hold the
meetings at 8 PM. That is 11 PM on the East coast. Also with
Multiple Virtual Chapters there could be multiple "Meetings" and
people could then flock to the one that is most convenient to their
schedule.
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Pamela Lynn Howell
<[email protected]> wrote:
IMO, what is actually needed is the *organizer* for the virtual
chapter, whatever it may be called.
---p
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Derek Balling
<[email protected]> wrote:
On May 9, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Evan Pettrey <[email protected]>
wrote:
I think you're being a bit pedantic here and I'm not sure it
is necessary or beneficial to the discussion.
I completely disagree. To ME, IMHO, going through this "virtual
chapter" process is an unnecessary use of the scarce resource we
have called "time".
I think what he's talking about DOING is great. I think
scheduling regular hangouts, etc., is a great thing for LOPSA
members to have and participate in. I think consuming his time,
the locals committee's time, etc., creating such a "chapter",
however, is completely wasted. It smells of the type of
"planning to plan" type of stuff that bogs down volunteer
groups.
What does he want? Social/technical/learning experiences with
other LOPSA members who aren't geographically proximal? So make
that happen, set up the schedule for the hangouts, etc., but
don't get bogged down in all the details of the Locals policy,
like figuring who the "chapter members" of record are, who allow
the chapter to maintain its charter, etc., etc. Just schedule
and advertise the hangouts and let any member who wants to be
involved be involved.
Every expense of scarce volunteer time should have an actual net
beneficial outcome. Spending time on the virtual-chapter portion
of this project doesn't do that. (Spending time on the "meat" of
this project has plenty of benefits, obviously).
I've said my piece, at this point. We're all grown-ups and can
make our own life choices. :-)
D
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