I've been meaning to join, but with finances (sole provider for a household
where everyone, including myself, is disabled), and the fact that I get the
most benefit out of the ML and occasionally the IRC room, I haven't gotten
around to it yet. I'm hoping to do so before LISA assuming Rosetta still
has the budget for me to attend LISA. If not, then I might not get around
to it until next year.

I don't like being a leech, and do want to join, but right now money's just
too tight to justify it to the wife. Hopefully my perspective can help
illuminate things, as I doubt there aren't a lot more folks in my same
shoes.

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are. And they protect from the darkness that's just around the corner."

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On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 8:38 AM, Atom Powers <[email protected]> wrote:

> DataPoint:
> In additional to the local LOPSA chapter meetings (SASAG) I also attend
> the Seattle DevOps Meetup. The DevOps meetup typically has two to three
> times as many people as the SASAG meetings. Some of that could be location
> but I think there is something more fundamental going on. I think the
> important factors could be focus, people go to the DevOps meetup to learn
> about DevOps, and the presentations, the DevOps meetup often has
> presentations from people who are more easily recognized as industry
> leaders.
>
> I think that most people at the DevOps meetup don't know what LOPSA is.
> I'm not exactly sure I really know what LOPSA is, other than "an
> organization of IT people". And frankly, organizations of IT people are a
> dime a dozen.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Ross West <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> It's been an interesting discussion recently about net neutrality - one
>> that I hope people start realizing it doesn't have a simple cut and paste
>> solution.  LOPSA is lucky enough that lots of people on here hold senior
>> positions in different sides of the discussions, so many viewpoints can be
>> heard/seen.
>>
>> Let's bust out the next one.
>>
>> Vince Cerf publicly went out and asked why the ACM isn't getting
>> programmers to join lately:  http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2639990
>>
>> The comment section makes for a very interesting read on the problems of
>> organizations like ACM (and Lopsa/et al) on losing relevance in the current
>> online world.
>>
>> While ACM focuses on programming, it's fairly obvious that Lopsa is in
>> the same type of boat.
>>
>> Do you (as a reader of this mailing list) have thoughts on what would
>> make Lopsa more relevant?
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