On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Rhys Rhaven <[email protected]>
wrote:

> [ ✓ ] Try to reduce what I said into Cloud vs Not Cloud. Way to go Mr.
> Allbery, you bought my lunch.
>

Bzzzt. That was Derek who summoned the cloud vs. not cloud. And if you
thought what I said was about cloud vs. not cloud, then again *you* did not
understand. Perhaps you made the same mistake that you did in asserting
that sysadmins are obsolete: not looking deeply enough, and/or only seeing
what you wanted to see.

Fact is, the sysadmin of 1995 that you are so very proud of yourself for
being better than, has moved beyond you already to become the sysadmin of
2015. Perhaps, again, you have failed to notice.

Also: most assuredly, LOPSA does concentrate a lot of education on the
sysadmin of 1995: because there are many, and they need help moving
forward. Mentoring --- not smug condescension, as is characteristic of so
many of the folks who adopted the name "devops" without the understanding
behind it.

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brandon s allbery kf8nh                               sine nomine associates
[email protected]                                  [email protected]
unix, openafs, kerberos, infrastructure, xmonad        http://sinenomine.net
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