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On 6/25/2015 8:13 PM, David Lang wrote:
> it's not a zero sum game, preventing people from participating in
> LOPSA does not mean that they will participate in whatever
> organization you wish they did participate in (and if you are
> annoying enough, your 'advocacy' will actually reduce the support
> for the other organizations in the process)
Available time absolutely is a zero sum game. There are a finite
number of hours in the day for someone to do something, and any time
people spend on LOPSA is (IMHO) wasted effort.
> you sound like some of the open source advocates that think that
> if project X were to go away, all the people who were passionate
> about it would become passionate about the advocates passion. It
> just doesn't work that way.
Not at all. Some percentage of LOPSA folks will be like "those other
organizations aren't for me". Some percentage of LOPSA folks will be
like, "I'm going to help out {otherOrganization} instead."
But since effort spent on LOPSA falls into a tame black hole of
non-progress, ANY effort that is diverted from LOPSA to -- literally
- -- any other goal is a net-positive for societal progress.
> How much money are we talking about here? given that LOPSA just got
> out of debt, it can't be much more than a year or so worth of
> dues.
A couple years worth. Like I said, it's my dues through 2017. So long
as LOPSA's sitting on that money, I've got a vested interest in the
optimization of its value.
> But in any case, what are these other organizations that you think
> are doing a better job? I don't know of them, and if LOPSA were to
> go away tomorrow, I still wouldn't know of them, so there's no way
> I would be joining them.
USENIX does a hell of a better job than we do, for starters. The
various conference organizations (the SCALEs and Ohio Linux Fests of
the world).
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