I should have mentioned topics as well - my bad. I’m a bit tired of repeating myself - I’m not asking it to replace email. I just see it as better platform to share information but we’ve been over this and it’s like beating a dead horse.
> Yes I have, and am still using it. Again, which email client do you use Allan? > I have a feeling you haven't used email in an efficient manner and hence are > confused by the overlap of the two. I use several clients depending on which machine I’m on. Thunderbird on my Linux host and OS X Mail when I’m on my Mac. Occasionally, I use Mutt too but I’ve grown tired of it. I set up filter sets server side. The client I use is largely irrelevant - what would be is how I’m using those. I filter discussion lists into a separate folder anyway which I look at when I’ve got the time to. I don’t see what your point is? I do know how to use email and it’s efficient for a lot of things, mostly staying in contact with people. However, for a discussion list / topically based regular form of discussion - I’m not saying it doesn’t work, as it does - I just feel there could be a better alternative that makes it a little better / gets more engagement. The way I use email works for me. That isn’t what I’m trying to get at and sigh’, I can’t even be bothered to repeat myself, again. Gmail isn’t something I use personally and never would. I’m just saying that email isn’t the be all and end all of discussions - probably why there’s an IRC channel which I didn’t notice. I thought Slack could contribute and possibly even remove the need for said lists if it can be dealt with there. It has been noted however, that mailman can be integrated with forums and what not. In fact, a forum would be even more effective than Slack. It just seems to me that email lists whereas things are more likely to get seen, just end up swept past. How many people are subscribed to the mailing list and actually use it? Sure, ten or so users contributing is more than none - but I’m just thinking in terms of broadening that and creating an even bigger, more diverse share of information and, more questions being asked and what not. - It’s as simple as ‘Is there not a better way to share information, discuss topics and engage with things LOPSA related and or mailing list specific with more functionality?’. + that’s fine - no one is making you use Slack. Same as no one is making you use IRC or the lists. I can understand the perspective that some people would rather just maintain it as it is - but has it occurred to you how how many people actually engage with the list? Or even the IRC channel? Shouldn’t LOPSA be seeking to increase and strengthen its member base? I don’t think the discussion is going to go any further from what’s already been discussed - and that’s fine. > On 13 Jul 2015, at 15:32, Yves Dorfsman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 2015-07-12 23:13, Allan Irving wrote: >> >> You can delete and keep specific messages. >> >> Lack of threads are just replaced with channels. > > Are you serious? You create one channel per discussion? > > I have (and still am) used slack in three different companies, we had one > channel per theme, so typically one per team, one per interest (say cooking), > one per product, one per major incident (outage, we don't understand what's > going on, we create a channel and all get busy). > > My experience of slack is that it is the electronic equivalent of working in > an open space, with potential for meeting rooms. It does it incredibly well, > it gives you the opportunity to be "at the office" while working remotely (two > of the companies I mentioned above are fully geographically distributed), or > on a second notice in the evening, or even during my lunch time. > > As mentioned earlier in this thread, I don't want to be in an electronic open > office space with non-work related folks. I have found a company slack can be > distracting enough if there is an expectation of everybody replying > immediately all the time, and people get chatty, I can't imagine getting any > work done if I had to also follow non-work slacks. > > I don't think there is a non-electronic equivalent of email. I think a lot of > the value of email has been lost because of gmail that makes email easy to use > but unusable for a lot of things. > > Things that I can do, and the expectation around email, with a good email > client that cannot be done or aren't expected from IM/slack: > > - *good*, per discussion threading > > - split per message which allows sorting per date, subject (threads), author, > recipients, etc... > > - expectation and ease of delayed reading and answering. In slack, if you > don't answer a busy channel within minutes of a discussion, the channel's > moved on to another discussion. Even reading is hard (too much to read), and > usually useless because people use slack for immediacy. I check my email when > I'm back from holidays, or I'll even have a quick look once per day during the > holiday (in the cases I have a high bus factor) because it's manageable, I > absolutely do not care about slack, because by the time I get to it it's too > late, people got their answer, or found a work around. > > >> How many here have used Slack as there is a lack of knowledge regarding the >> features. > > Yes I have, and am still using it. Again, which email client do you use Allan? > I have a feeling you haven't used email in an efficient manner and hence are > confused by the overlap of the two. > > -- > http://yves.zioup.com > gpg: 4096R/32B0F416 > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators > http://lopsa.org/ _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators http://lopsa.org/
