I'd be happy to help, just as I've been before during other
get-written-stuff-together efforts for LOPSA. Craig's item C does seem to
be what is needed/wanted.

As a professional tech writer for over 25 years who cares passionately
about LOPSA and sysadmin in general, I'm pretty sure I can readily complete
what might need to be done, along with other interested parties, to meet
the 8/14 submission deadline.

Assuming most of us are busy professionals, my advice would be, "Let's
start sooner rather than later." I've got lots of free bandwidth 8/9,
decent amounts in the evenings 8/10-14; I'm in Eastern Daylight Time for
coordination.

---pam
On Aug 8, 2015 11:01 AM, "Craig Constantine" <[email protected]> wrote:

> My first thought is pragmatic...
>
> Is "The Guide" a separate thing from "The SABoK"? I think it is/should be,
> conceptually separate.
>
> a) "SABok" is a thing. It's composed of the information on sabok.org.
> b) "The Guide to the SABok" seems to be the 'introduction' page on the web
> site; It explains the SABoK.
> c) The thing for JESA submission is "An Introduction to the SysAdmin Body
> of Knowledge"
>
> I fear this all sounds like trivial nitpicking on my part, but these sorts
> of semantics really help (me at least) wrap my brain around a new thing
> when I first encounter it.
>
> -- Craig Constantine, http://constantine.name
>
>
>
> On Aug 8, 2015, at 10:36 AM, Aleksey Tsalolikhin <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Seed of a paper on the SABOK for JESA:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D4VpPJq46Ox9ZU4txeE1vmDBmPXFd52-1WYI2WgTSFM/edit?usp=sharing
> (let me know if you'd like Edit access and I'll add you)
>
> Thanks to Mark Burgess, Ski Kacoroski and Carolyn Rowland for reviewing
> the initial draft and their suggestions:
>
> * summarize the effort represented by the BOK. List of literature/summary
> sounds like a very valuable thing, but it will take quite a bit of work.
> * show how this relates to other efforts in this area such as opsschool,
> sans, stackexchange, spiceworks, and other system admin resources.  Clearly
> place this effort in the landscape of system administration resources.
> * give an end to end example of how some content in the BoK can be used
> for education, training, and qualification (gedanken experiment or real
> life) to show people your vision for the BoK.
> * Give numbers as to why system administration is so important.
> * Expand the reading list using the thread in LOPSA-discuss that drich
> started a bit ago.
> * "Next steps" needs to include concrete, measurable things that are next
> on the list to be done such as move to a wiki, get content on Y, get
> contributors, etc.  (this is our call for help)
> * Email the JESA chairs and let them know what we're trying to do (get the
> word out about SABOK and solicit participation from Academia). Then they
> can look at what you've got and think about how it could fit in the
> journal. (Maybe a short paper is not the right format.)
>
> I've been tied up with business (I'm on-boarding my employee #1 -
> milestone after five years of running the business part-time and five
> months full-time) but I am "motivated", as Craig said, to put a mention of
> SABOK in JESA; we'll squeeze this in somehow.  Help welcome!
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Aleksey Tsalolikhin <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> I've got a draft of an article about SABOK (www.sabok.org) which came out
> of the LOPSA Professional Content Committee.  I showed it to half a dozen
> people and got some great feedback; however I'm not certain I'll have time
> to finish the draft in the time remaining.
>
> Nevertheless, I'll put the draft online tonight or tomorrow, and will
> welcome your participation
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Craig Constantine <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> I never did anything. I've never written anything formal since college;
> certainly never a real paper submission to a journal.
>
> I'd be willing to help, but with the deadline a week away... we'd need a
> pretty motivated person(s) to put it together now.
>
> -- Craig Constantine, http://constantine.name
>
>
> On Aug 7, 2015, at 10:43 AM, Adam Moskowitz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Way back in June, Craig Constantine <[email protected]> and Ski
> Kacoroski <[email protected]> and David Lang <[email protected]> wrote:
> > (stuff about getting a group together to submit to JESE [1]
>
> Did anything ever come of this? Is anyone submitting something with
> LOPSA's imprimatur? Or individually?
>
> FYI, the deadline is one week from today.
>
> Adam
>
>
> [1] https://www.usenix.org/jesa/call-for-articles
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