On 20.10.2015 00:36, Aaron Wolf wrote: > > > On 10/19/2015 03:29 PM, mray wrote: >> >> >> On 19.10.2015 22:47, Bryan Richter wrote: >>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:40:04AM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: >>>> >>>> On 10/19/2015 11:14 AM, Jonathan Roberts wrote: >>>>> I don't like the way flagging is currently presented in the forum. To >>>>> check a box that labels another comment as "defensiveness" or "hate >>>>> speech" has a lot of potential for escalating conflict...see every other >>>>> discussion board ever for examples of this. >>>> >>>> I think you're misunderstanding how it works based on the way that >>>> Robert's mock-ups showed it. >>>> >>>> <snip really long description of how it works> >>> >>> For what it's worth, while I understand and acknowledge the positive >>> aspects of the Snowdrift flagging system, I think we should >>> acknowledge there's still room for abuse. I can flag you for whatever >>> I want if I don't like what you've said, and I have instantly silenced >>> you. Your point of view will go unheard for however many minutes, >>> hours, or days it takes for you to have time to edit your post. That is >>> *plenty* of time to be effectively extincted from an online >>> conversation. There is no tradeoff for me, either. >>> >>> Second, can we really expect someone to objectively, rationally, edit >>> their post in response to a flagging? >>> >> >> Those two terms contain exactly my concerns. >> Technically this is censorship. >> It assumes that people don't hesitate to flag quickly and react calm to >> flagging. That is asking for lots of cooperation on both ends. >> I guess we'll have to find out if our community will play along?! >> >> > > It's only censorship of the specific items from the Code of Conduct. >
I start at the premise of ill intend. Somebody *can* misuse the flagging function no matter what our CoC says. Technically this capability is censorship - although probably short lived. But as bryan noted - removing a post only for hours can be pretty effective. Hence this is like giving potential lunatics an easy first shot, so maybe we should hand out this gun only to people that have shown true interest in the project and given the chance to not have been flagged for some time.
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