well, the Sunnyvale stop is closest probably, it's not a huge difference. but like I said, apples a good few miles away.
cheers jane On 7/25/08, Janet and Felix * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Jane, yeah, my mistake. Aaa! Sorry again. I just know so many cities > in the bay area and their general location, that I made an incorrect > assumption thinking Cupertino was one of the stops on the Cal Train line. > > Great idea you have there. I will check out http://barcamp.org > > I hope this idea of a pow wow doesn't go completely out of people's minds, > when it gets moved to the back burner for now. > > I'm still waiting to see what our friend with friends at Apple can come up > with. > > janet > > _________________________________ > i'm EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD > Join me > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=EML_WLHM_GreaterGood > > ---------------------------------------- >> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:04:50 -0700 >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Discussion about a tour of the Apple facility in Cupertino >> >> Heyas! Got a few things to point out:First..the Apple campus is nothing >> particularly noteworthy. Sorry to crush anyone's hopes/dreams, but it >> honestly is just a whole bunch of buildings and offices. The only thing >> possibly worth visiting would be the company store, if you wanted to get >> like tshirts or something. >> >> Secondly, even if you take caltrain, there's still a long distance you >> have >> to cover some other way to get to one infinite loop. I looked into it when >> I >> was staying in SF for WWDC and wanted to take some friends out to go see >> sights. It was infeasible for me...I think it was basically the san >> francisco caltrain station (walk/bus/whatever there) to the sunnyvale >> station, then about 4-5 miles to infinite loop. It's about 2 hours by >> public >> transit one way. >> >> Lastly, given what I first pointed out, wouldn't it be easier to be >> hosting >> an event not necessarily at apple but one where current blind mac users >> and >> anyone interested can come and learn, and the more knowledgeable among you >> teach classes? There's these things called BarCamp (and sometimes modified >> to fit a theme, like iPhoneDevCamp and StartupCamp) where people come >> together and share/learn/teach each other. You could call it like >> MacAccessibilityCamp or something. See http://barcamp.org for more info. >> Sure, having it at apple is nice, but it may be inconvenient and limited. >> >> I know there's a recurring event hosted by apple in cupertino called >> cocoaheads, but you'd have to consider that that's related to mac >> programming and a lot of attendees are apple employees. Maybe you will >> have >> better luck asking apple accessibility if they'd be willing to look into >> hosting an event. Probably no need to curry Steve Jobs' favor. >> >> cheers, >> jane >> >> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Janet and Felix * < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Our friend himself does not work for Apple. He could. He's got the >>> knowlege. Instead he works for a company that encodes films. Before >>> that >>> he used to write anti-virus software. Anyway, he has friends he met in >>> high >>> school and/or college that now work for Apple that he stays in touch >>> with. >>> Friends in prominent positions at Apple. >>> >>> I asked if I could share what we talked about and he said 'no not yet'. >>> I'm sorry! It was just some ideas we batted back and forth. But they >>> could amount to something. >>> >>> Hey, everything starts with an idea, right? >>> >>> I suggested maybe some media attention as a carrot to get Apple to >>> consider >>> a meeting and/or tour. It would surely be newsworthy if Apple had a >>> small >>> gathering of blind folks touring their facilty and/or participating in a >>> forum. >>> >>> But Felix brought up a very good point. About media attention. I >>> thought >>> it might be some good free publicity, but Felix says NO! Can't make this >>> public! It could invite radical NFB demonstrators to come and make a >>> fiasco >>> out of what could be a good thing. >>> >>> Yikes. So we've got the idea now to suggest making this exclusive only >>> for >>> current blind Mac owners/users, and then maybe suggest a reception >>> outside >>> where non Mac users could come to get more information. Then if anyone >>> made >>> any sort of weird demonstration, at least it'd be outside. >>> >>> What do you think? Not that we have any say at all in what Apple does >>> here! Laugh-laugh! Oh well, I can dream. >>> >>> Just throwing an idea out there. >>> >>> Developing concise points for a discussion with Apple, definately a good >>> ongoing forum here. Someone needs to be a record keeper of sorts. Save >>> and >>> sort pertinent postings and compile a list. >>> >>> *smile* >>> >>> Janet >>> >>> PS. OFF TOPIC. Felix plays in several blues bands, including one every >>> Sunday over in the east bay town of Lafayette, 5-8 pm, at a nice dinner >>> lounge type restaurant called Petar's. It's about 2 blocks from the >>> Lafayette Bart Station. Free. fun place. Every week they feature a >>> different singer fronting the band, and also different bass players. >>> Felix >>> and the drummer are always there every week though. That's one >>> suggestion >>> anyway! but yea, I'm totally flexible and into hangin' with you and >>> anyone >>> else too from the list if you're in the SF bay area sometime! That'd be >>> fun! Here is Felix's My Space, work in progress, but there's a couple >>> videos >>> anyway. >>> http://myspace.com/felixbannon >>> There's a partial gig listing there too. I still have more future gigs >>> to >>> put up. I do that for him. I like doing it more than he does. I don't >>> mind. >>> >>> ---------------------------------------- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: Discussion about a tour of the Apple facility in Cupertino >>>> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:33:18 -0700 >>>> >>>> Ah, yes, now it's my turn to be blonde! lol! >>>> >>>> Anyway, I used to take the Millbray route all the time, back and >>>> forth between the east bay and Santa Clara. If you've never been >>>> there, the Millbray station is a very cool structure. It's tres artsie! >>>> >>>> Anyway, to keep this sort of on-topic, what department is your >>>> programmer friend in? Have we got any general sorts of ideas as to >>>> possible discussion topics and how we might approach such?… >>>> >>>> As I and others have alluded to, I think diplomacy is really an >>>> important concern here, as there are already people in contact with >>>> Apple on a regular basis, and this sort of thing should enhance a >>>> relationship rather than help it go south! lol! -Know what I mean?… >>>> >>>> I think if people really do want to do this, then it might be a >>>> really good idea to outline in writing some very concise points to >>>> touch on. >>>> >>>> Anyway, cool beans! and thanks for your notes!… Regardless of this >>>> happening or not, I'd love to catch up witcha both up there and do >>>> coffee / dinner etc!… >>>> >>>> Smiles, >>>> >>>> Cara :) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 23, 2008, at 7:06 PM, Janet and Felix * wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cal Train does go all the way to San Francisco. We've got on it at >>>>> the King & 4th Street station, the terminal for Cal Train. The >>>>> south end terminal is in Gilroy, south of San Jose. Never been that >>>>> far down though. We only rode it as far as Redwood City and back to >>>>> San Francisco. Fun train. upstairs and downstairs seating. >>>>> >>>>> Yes, oh yes, I definitely agree, that is faster. Don't bother with >>>>> the Embarcadero station and Muni. Just go to the Millbrae Station >>>>> just south of the SF airport. And catch Cal Train there. I've >>>>> never done that one before. Gotta add that one to my experiences >>>>> sometime soon. >>>>> >>>>> Okay! >>>>> >>>>> Janet >>>> >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. >>> >>> http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_family_safety_072008 >>> > >
