Our friend himself does not work for Apple.  He could.  He's got the knowlege.  
Instead he works for a company that encodes films.  Before that he used to 
write anti-virus software.  Anyway, he has friends he met in high school and/or 
college that now work for Apple that he stays in touch with.  Friends in 
prominent positions at Apple.

I asked if I could share what we talked about and he said 'no not yet'.  I'm 
sorry!  It was just some ideas we batted back and forth.  But they could amount 
to something.

Hey, everything starts with an idea, right?

I suggested maybe some media attention as a carrot to get Apple to consider a 
meeting and/or tour.   It would surely be newsworthy if Apple had a small 
gathering of blind folks touring their facilty and/or participating in a forum.

But Felix brought up a very good point.  About media attention.  I thought it 
might be some good free publicity, but Felix says NO!  Can't make this public!  
It could invite radical NFB demonstrators to come and make a fiasco out of what 
could be a good thing.  

Yikes.  So we've got the idea now to suggest making this exclusive only for 
current blind Mac owners/users, and then maybe  suggest a reception outside 
where non Mac users could come to get more information.  Then if anyone made 
any sort of weird demonstration, at least it'd be outside.

What do you think?  Not that we have any say at all in what Apple does here!  
Laugh-laugh! Oh well, I can dream.

Just throwing an idea out there.   

Developing concise points for a discussion with Apple, definately a good 
ongoing forum here.  Someone needs to be a record keeper of sorts.  Save and 
sort pertinent postings and compile a list.

*smile*

Janet

PS. OFF TOPIC. Felix plays in several blues bands, including one every Sunday 
over in the east bay town of Lafayette, 5-8 pm, at a nice dinner lounge type 
restaurant called Petar's.  It's about 2 blocks from the Lafayette Bart 
Station.  Free.  fun place.  Every week they feature a different singer 
fronting the band, and also different bass players.  Felix and the drummer are 
always there every week though.  That's one suggestion anyway!  but yea, I'm 
totally flexible and into hangin' with you and anyone else too from the list if 
you're in the SF bay area sometime!  That'd be fun! Here is Felix's My Space, 
work in progress, but there's a couple videos anyway.  
http://myspace.com/felixbannon 
There's a partial gig listing there too.  I still have more future gigs to put 
up.  I do that for him. I like doing it more than he does.  I don't mind.

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Discussion about a tour of the Apple facility in Cupertino
> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:33:18 -0700
> 
>   Ah, yes, now it's my turn to be blonde!  lol!
> 
>   Anyway, I used to take the Millbray route all the time, back and  
> forth between the east bay and Santa Clara.  If you've never been  
> there, the Millbray station is a very cool structure.  It's tres artsie!
> 
>   Anyway, to keep this sort of on-topic, what department is your  
> programmer friend in?  Have we got any general sorts of ideas as to  
> possible discussion topics and how we might approach such?…
> 
>   As I and others have alluded to, I think diplomacy is really an  
> important concern here, as there are already people in contact with  
> Apple on a regular basis, and this sort of thing should enhance a  
> relationship rather than help it go south!  lol!  -Know what I mean?…
> 
>   I think if people really do want to do this, then it might be a  
> really good idea to outline in writing some very concise points to  
> touch on.
> 
>   Anyway, cool beans!  and thanks for your notes!…  Regardless of this  
> happening or not, I'd love to catch up witcha both up there and do  
> coffee / dinner etc!…
> 
> Smiles,
> 
> Cara  :)
> 
> 
> On Jul 23, 2008, at 7:06 PM, Janet and Felix * wrote:
> 
>>
>> Cal Train does go all the way to San Francisco.  We've got on it at  
>> the King & 4th Street station, the terminal for Cal Train.  The  
>> south end terminal is in Gilroy, south of San Jose.  Never been that  
>> far down though.  We only rode it as far as Redwood City and back to  
>> San Francisco.  Fun train.  upstairs and downstairs seating.
>>
>> Yes, oh yes, I definitely agree, that is faster.  Don't bother with  
>> the Embarcadero station and Muni.  Just go to the Millbrae Station  
>> just south of the SF airport.  And catch Cal Train there.  I've  
>> never done that one before.  Gotta add that one to my experiences  
>> sometime soon.
>>
>> Okay!
>>
>> Janet
> 

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