ya know, you didn't have to post if you were gonna be nasty.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Will Lomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by 
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: 4g ipod nano absolutely brilliant


all these questions have been answered, do people not read messages?
you have to connect it to the computer in order to generate the small
mp3 files using your system voice to make it speak, kind of like
rockbox so nothing knew there but it is a good concept for those who
wish to use it

On 12 Sep 2008, at 20:23, Chris Gilland wrote:

> Will it even read your browser?  Like, if I wanted to say browse and
> play the Beatles... would it tell me my browser as I scroll to find
> that artist?
>
> Also does it speak right up front, or do I have to actually get
> sighted help initially to turn the speech on.
>
> Chris.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Esther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "blind" <[email protected]>; <General>
> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 9:02 AM
> Subject: Re: 4g ipod nano absolutely brilliant
>
>
>> Hi Scott,
>>>
>>> the new ipod nano 4g is better then I had expected.
>>> The menus talk not all of them but the ones we need do actually
>>> speak. There's no clipping the speech sounds brilliant and it
>>> just  keeps up with you when you move your finger around the click
>>> wheel.
>>>
>>> It's absolutely fantastic a couple of issues i'm reporting to
>>> apple  such as no way of obtiining battery status info but other
>>> then this  totally usable.
>>>
>>> it's hard getting used to the click wheel but after you have all
>>> heard my presentation, you'll all want to disguard your ipods for
>>> a  4g nano guaranteed.
>>>
>>> i'm really very very impressed and i think we'll have more ipod
>>> users before we no it.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> OK, I couldn't resist when I found my local Apple Store had these
>> in.   I agree the 4G nano is really nice. (But I don't want to
>> discard my 2G  nano at all!).  The iPod even announces "Charging"
>> and "Charged".  It announces almost all the menus (except for the
>> "extras" and some of  the "settings"  (the summary status of your
>> space usage that you get  when connected to the iPod isn't spoken,
>> nor are time settings or  other peripheral items that interactively
>> change -- you get status on  clickers and font size for low-vision
>> users, but you don't get  information on backlight adjustment, for
>> example).  This also means  that you get equalzer access, but you
>> have to choose among the  equalizer presets.  You also can't
>> interactively configure the menu  displays by deciding to eliminate
>> categories, for example.
>>
>> However, Scott's right that in what you want to hear the menu
>> design  is beautifully done.  If you've used the click wheel before
>> you  probably won't have problems.  Some of the functions I'm used
>> to  having on the click wheel have been passed to other menus.
>> For  example, in audiobooks and podcasts, I was used to changing
>> speed (if  I used this) by additional clicks on the center of the
>> wheel.  This  function is now settable only in the Playback submenu
>> under settings,  not in the individual audiobook or podcast tracks.
>>
>> There are a few pointers that would help in the original set up --
>> for example, I didn't know how long the first sync would take, and
>> moving focus to the iTunes player status menu (VO-up arrow twice
>> from the  songs list region or, in this case, where the iPod setup
>> information  is) helped, if you move your VoiceOver cursor off and
>> on this field to update.
>>
>> You also need to know that once you've connected your iPod you have
>> to VO-right arrow twice to the registration field (which is
>> perfectly accessible, provided you know it's there).
>>
>> Also, before the iPod starts talking, you have to choose your
>> language, and these aren't spoken.  The top of the list (your
>> default  position) is U.S. English. (There appears to be a UK
>> English setting  as the second item, according to my reading on the
>> web.  This is new,  but I have no idea what difference it makes.).
>> So just click the  center of the wheel after making sure you're at
>> the top of the list  (counter clockwise top position).  At that
>> point you will hear Alex  announce the top level menu (Music,
>> Videos, Photos, Podcasts, Extras,  Settings,  Shuffle Songs). After
>> that, you're golden.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Esther
>>
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