That's excellent explanation you have here Fonzie, and I appreciate your
effort spent to write it.
I am following this thread and learned every bit of information you guys
have contributed.
Cheers,
Estelita
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fonzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: Really annoying issue with editing in text boxes.
Hello all, and Chris, how are you doing?
I hope all is well.
Okay Chris, let's see if this will help you out.
firstly, I can vouch for not having an issue with ever editing documents,
or edit boxes. I only switched to a mac in August, and I never had any
issues in dealing with cursors itself.
I will try and explain this as best I can.
From here on out, I would like you to open a text edit document, and do
the following.
Type out, Hello how are you doing?
Okay, now I would like you to do the following...
After you type out that particular sentence, please hold command, and hit
left arrow to wrap back to the beginning of your sentence. Now, release,
and follow my explanation.
Now, your cursor is sitting directly at the beginning of your sentence.
So, you cursor will be sitting in front of your letter H in the word
Hello. So, from now on, when thinking of whre you move your cursor, you
will be working either ahead, or behind the document. For easier
purposes, you will be working to the right of your document, should you
move your cursor forward, or to the left, if you move your cursor to the
left.
Now, let's do the following. We are only going to work with the word
Hello, and nothing more. This will give you good practice, and you will
hopefully see that this is not a bug at all.
Try moving your cursor quickly to the right and left of the characters in
Hello. If you move quickly to the right, past the letters H E L L O, you
will hear each letter in individual succession, letting you know that you
passed that current letter, now, quickly hit your left arrow, and your
cursor will now start letting you know what you are passing over on the
left. So, we first moved are cursor to the right, in which it announced
H E L L O, now as soon as we move to the left, you will hear O L L E H,
indicating, you are passing over these particular letters.
This is what you will have to get used to while editing on the mac.
So, now let's practice editing work. Let's try changing the word Hello
into a name.
Let's use, Helen for our example. When you get done with this sentence,
it will read, Helen how are you doing? The former sentence was, Hello how
are you doing?
So, remember, we are at the most left of the document, indicating that
your cursor is now to the left of the letter H.
Now, let's get down to editing the word Hello. Firstly, let's describe
what happends as you actually move the cursor. Press your right arrow
once and you will hear H again, if you press it left once more, you will
hear H again. The reason for this is because, you are telling the
cursor, to be positioned to the left or right of a character
respectively.
This is so that, you know where you are heading into your current
document, and where the cursor will be traveling too. Should you press
right, the cursor will always be right after the current character being
heard, should you press left, the cursor will be positioned to the left
of the character being spoken. So, when you heard H when you pressed
your right arrow, your cursor was put in front of the letter H, and VO
said H, thus, when putting your cursor left, by itting the left arrow,
you heard H again, siply because your cursor was being put before H, and
you are still on the letter H.
Furthermore, if you just continued tapping right arrow, you would have
heard the individual letters being spoken, while keeping in mind that
every time you move right, the cursor is being put after the character
being spoken, and works the same if you press the left arrow. So, if you
pause for any instance, at any particular letter, and press left once,
and or right once, you will still hear the same letter being spoken to
you. This is the same as I have spoken above.
So, now let's edit Hello to Helen. Press left arrow, to make sure you
are at the beginning of the word Hello, or until you hear H. Now,
immediately press right arrow, until you hear O. Delete until you hear
O, L, and simply replace with E, N. There, we did it.
So, if your doing any editing work at all, remember, that you are
pressing the right arrow to be placed ahead of a character, where as left
places you behind thecharacter.
I hope this helps.
Remember, this is not a user bug at all, and the way this was designed
truely works the way it should be working.
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