Thanks guys!
I know that for some people choosing a framework becomes a religious question. I started to say something about this in my original message. Instead, I listed some requirements: . An MVC framework (Therefore, no Fusebox). The others are more object oriented. . Helps expand my understanding and won't quickly become obsolete. . Being easier to learn and get started with. I also have a lot of respect for all the ACFUG members. So, if there's already an ACFUG consensus, I'd rather go in that direction. Charlie, I think I remember asking you before if you focused on a specific framework, and you said "No". Doug's been in Flex land, and I also had Timothy's question whether CF9 changes anything with its built-in hibernate. I'd love to hear from anyone who recently has been using one of these frameworks. What do you think might be best for me? Thanks again! Clarke From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 11:03 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Learning a ColdFusion Framework What did I hear fusebox compared to recently on twitter....hmmmm. Coldbox sounds promising, it showed up whilst I was away in Flex land. Seems to me, without fanning flames, mach-ii, coldbox, or model glue will be handy dandy to learn. The principles learned in either of these will apply in the future as well as today. Fusebox I would not say that about. Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Charlie Arehart <char...@carehart.org> wrote: Uh, here it comes, the annual framework debate. :-) I'm only joking, Clarke. It's a reasonable question. The good news is that you will indeed get opinions. You'll just have to sift through them. I think the problem with the discussion is that there's no one good answer. As with so many things, it depends: on yourself, fellow developers (and indeed if there are any), what you do and don't know about frameworks and patterns in general, how much you'll be able to reuse the framework (and the knowledge gained getting comfortable), how much time you have, how much you want to be able (or may have to) to contribute to it, and so many other attributes. Besides the big 4 (mach ii, model-glue, fusebox, and coldbox), there are indeed many more. Another that may suit you getting started is cfwheels. I list all the CFML frameworks (that I've found) at my CF411 site: http://www.cf411.com/#cffw (Actually, I break it into 3 categories: Application, injection, and ORM frameworks.) I'll note that we've had talks on ColdBox on the meetup before. Check out all past recordings at recordings.coldfusionmeetup.com. There was also an issue of the FusionAuthority Quarterly Update that tried to review the top frameworks (Vol II Issue II, Fall 2006), which while a bit dated may still be helpful. There was also an effort some years ago at trying to create a repository of one example app built in many frameworks: http://www.cfpetmarket.com/. It didn't really take off, but it's worth considering in your evaluation effort. Let's see what others say in general. /charlie From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Clarke Bishop Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 6:00 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Learning a ColdFusion Framework OK, I've finally decided to really learn a ColdFusion framework! But which one? I watched a presentation Sean Corfield did for BACFUG (I found this on Charlie's UGTV): https://admin.na3.acrobat.com/_a204547676/p71922816/ I think Mach-II is harder to learn and I don't need it's capabilities. So, I crossed Mach-II off my list. Before I watched Sean's presentation, I was thinking Model-Glue was the right one to learn. It seems like I've heard more of you talking about Model-Glue than the others. But, in Sean's presentation, ColdBox seemed like it might be a good choice, too. It seems to have very good documentation which would help me get down the learning curve. What do you guys think? Is there any other mainstream framework I should look at? I want to learn how to effectively use an MVC framework, and I want to pick something that will expand my understanding and won't be obsolete next year. Other than that, being easiest to learn is probably most important. Thanks for your ideas! 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