On Sun, 27 Nov 2005, Simon Montagu wrote:

> Ron Artstein wrote:
> > I just performed a little experiment: I sent myself an email 
> > with Hebrew characters, manually giving it an ISO-8859-8 header 
> > (from pine). Mozilla Thunderbird (version 1.0, 20041206, on 
> > Linux) displays it from right to left, that is in *logical* 
> > order. Moreover, even if I manually select "Hebrew Visual 
> > (ISO-8859-8)" from the view menu, Thunderbird *still* displays 
> > the message in logical order.
> 
> Do you have the Bidi mail extension installed? This behaviour 
> might be caused by interaction between the Bidi extension and 
> Thunderbird, or it might just be a bug. I will look into it.

Same behavior on Thunderbird 1.0 (20041206, Linux) with Bidi 
extension and on Mozilla 1.6 (20040113, Windows) without Bidi 
extension: both display "Hebrew Visual (ISO-8859-8)" in logical 
order, whether detected automatically via the header or chosen 
manually by the user.

> > Thunderbird by default does not give the option of composing 
> > mail in what it calls "Hebrew Visual (ISO-8859-8)" -- you have 
> > to "customize" the encoding options in order to do so. I just 
> > did it, and sent myself a message; it came out with the 
> > ISO-8859-8 header, and the characters in *logical* order.
> 
> This is more or less by design. Thunderbird is supposed to 
> support visual Hebrew for incoming messages but to send messages 
> only in logical Hebrew, on the principle of "be strict with what 
> you generate but generous in what you accept". Ideally it should 
> be impossible to send messages with ISO-8859-8 in the header, 
> even by customization.

Sending Hebrew only in logical order sounds very sensible.

However, sending it with the ISO-8859-8 header isn't exactly being 
strict with what you generate :-)

Cheers, -Ron.

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