On 10 Jul, 2013, at 11:40, Richard Jones <rich...@python.org> wrote:

> On 10 July 2013 19:08, Vinay Sajip <vinay_sa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> Richard Jones <r1chardj0n3s <at> gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>>> pip without virtualenv in python 2 contexts is pretty rare (or at
>>> least *should* be <wink>) so I think I'll retain it in that bootstrap
>>> code.
>> 
>> Perhaps I misunderstand, but what's the relevance of Python 2 contexts here?
>> Aren't we talking about Python 3.4 and later?
> 
> It makes sense to me (and Nick) to simplify the packaging overhead for
> users of Python 2. Currently the story is a bit of a mess (multiple
> sites with different approaches).

New features in a bugfix release? You better hope the RM doesn't hear :-) 

That said, 2.7 will be around for a while and adding a consistent installation
experience to both 3.4 and 2.7 does sound attractive and adding a new
script shouldn't have that many side effects.

What about backporting pyvenv as well? I guess that's way too invasive
for a bugfix release.

Ronald
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