On Jan 30, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Noah Kantrowitz <n...@coderanger.net> wrote:

> 
> On Jan 30, 2014, at 1:09 AM, Vinay Sajip <vinay_sa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> --------------------------------------------
>> On Thu, 30/1/14, Ralf Gommers <ralf.gomm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Also end user.
>>> If, as a user, I want to use inplace builds and PYTHONPATH
>>> instead of virtualenvs for whatever reason, that should be
>>> supported. Setuptools inserting stuff to sys.path that come
>>> before PYTHONPATH entries is quite annoying.
>> 
>> If tool developers want to offer end users the option to control how they 
>> work
>> with sys.path, that's up to them. For example, once the details are worked 
>> out,
>> the distil tool will probably get a --mountable option for the package 
>> command,
>> which will write metadata into the built wheel indicating whether the wheel 
>> is
>> addable to sys.path or not (based on the builder's knowledge of the wheel's
>> contents). Distlib, when asked to mount a wheel (add it to sys.path) will 
>> check
>> the mountability metadata and honour the wheel publisher's intent.
>> 
> 
> For everyone following along, the PEP has been updated. 
> http://hg.python.org/peps/rev/26983acc9c11
> 
> If anyone has comments on the next text you can find it at 
> http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0427/#is-it-possible-to-import-python-code-directly-from-a-wheel-file
> 
> I hope we can discuss further changes as a group before they are pushed live.
> 
> --Noah
> 
> 
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The updated text is fine with me as it at least accurately documents the fact 
that using that
feature is fraught with peril and reads more of a documentation of the behavior 
than
anything else.

So thanks for the final (I hope?) update Nick, and sorry this thread got all 
ragey.

On the plus side this spurred me into trying to put the thoughts I’ve had for a 
newer Wheel
format down into a PEP and I think it’s turning out well so far :]

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