Serge's message was not a careful explanation. He didn't assume that Alyssa was well-intentioned and instead he immediately dropped to the level of personal attack and public shaming - in the most literal sense, saying "you should be ashamed of yourself."
He could have written a careful explanation, and could have communicated his feelings in a productive way. He didn't: his message didn't merit an apology and doesn't merit respect. On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com > wrote: > > 2014-12-03 16:05 GMT+01:00 Tom MacWright <t...@macwright.org>: > >> I support the ban: what Serge wrote was abusive, personal, and hurtful, >> easily falling into the 'extreme' bin. >> >> > > I believe that if Serge got banned, Alyssa and Randal should get banned as > well. He was carefully explaining, despite his resentfulness, why he got > hurt by her statement, a statement that was presumably ironic in its > intentions, but surely shouldn't have been posted to a diversity mailing > list (btw. in a thread that Serge had started about neurodiversity, and > where he had explained the sensibility of the argument). And what is their > reply? An apology? No, they called him an "asshole", here, on the public > diversity list where a code of conduct for OSM shall emerge. Even if you > believed he was, how can you call for "respect for everybody" and in the > same breath deny it to him? > > cheers, > Martin >
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