After having a share of the results from the international gender representation survey from Geochicas, we've come to a conclusion that at least 7 out of 10 contributors believe in the need of implementing a CoC in OSM in general, not only in specific lists.
Sele. 2018-03-01 6:19 GMT-06:00 Ilya Zverev <i...@zverev.info>: > Hi, > > I'm a moderator on the Russian forum. A year ago I introduced CoC (called > "rules", but technically it's CoC). I based these on several examples, like > the Django one, translated and adapted to Russia. There was a huge backlash > from some members, angry posts on the OSM diary appear to this day. But > despite several reports to forum admins and to OSMF working groups, CoC > still stands. > > Obviously at first it lead to some temporary bans, but with time there are > zero users banned, and everyone is pretty polite and constructive. Which is > a visible difference to how the forum was before me. The amount of > discussions decreased, but the quality, in my opinion, rose. > > To me, there are two important conditions for CoC to succeed: cutting > users slack (we have "one warning" policy + these expire after a time) and > being strict in enforcing the CoC (banning multiple users at once if > needed). > > So, I think to install CoC the moderator should just go and do it, and > worry about technicalities later. If somebody does not like being in a > space with CoC, they can choose any of the remaining hundred of mailing > lists. > > Ilya > > > 1 марта 2018 г., в 15:04, Jo Walsh <metaz...@fastmail.net> написал(а): > > > > Hi folks. I'm glad of this forum to reboot this discussion. > > > > From my POV the Code of Conduct is boilerplate and should include the > minimum necessary in order to be both accepted and effective. For better or > worse the absence of a CoC has become a signpost that an online community > is not welcoming. > > > > When the CoC discussion blew up on the OSMF-talk list last year I tried > to read the background and liked what I saw at: > > https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/blob/master/CODE_OF_ > CONDUCT.md > > > > It derives from the Go community, which lifted from Django and Rust, > which were inspired by GeekFeminism efforts. The wording is pretty minimal > and I like the initial emphasis on the positive. > > > >> We might even include something like "OpenStreetMap participation > style" in > >> that list so we do not have to tolerate disparaging remarks about remote > >> mappers, craft mappers, newbie mappers or folks that participate through > >> non-mapping contributions. > > > > Imo this would be walking into a minefield, encourage accusations of > tone policing. The emphasis on having to spell out all kinds of > unacceptable behaviour, as you note below, is to avoid a lot of contentious > discussion about what is acceptable; it's the long discussion rather than > any initial incident which will repel people or burn them out. > > > > I think contribution styles are not in scope here. OSM friends have > wondered "why do we not include positive attributes that mappers should > have, such as emphasis on surveying, no trespassing, etc" but an effort to > get the wording right / get enough eyes and minds on the description of > values, would just further delay the sensible adoption of a baseline CoC > > > >> How many endless discussions > >> will there be (or have their been) about what is offensive as opposed to > >> the somewhat easier to identify, disparaging or derogatory comment. > > > > Historically there has been a mailing list CoC but i dont think it had > enough input to get adoption, it's narrow in scope and overly specific, it > would be great if an effort here could trickle up into something OSMF as a > whole could adopt > > https://github.com/mvexel/CoC-mailing-lists/blob/master/ > code_of_conduct.md > > > > Lots more to discuss but i'll leave it here :D > > > > > > Jo > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Diversity-talk mailing list > > Code of Conduct: TBD > > Contact the mods (private): diversity-talk-ow...@openstreetmap.org > > (_internal_name)s > > > _______________________________________________ > Diversity-talk mailing list > Code of Conduct: TBD > Contact the mods (private): diversity-talk-ow...@openstreetmap.org > (_internal_name)s > -- Selene Yang Rappaccioli Candidata Doctoral en Comunicación Universidad Nacional de La Plata @SeleneYang
_______________________________________________ Diversity-talk mailing list Code of Conduct: TBD Contact the mods (private): diversity-talk-ow...@openstreetmap.org (_internal_name)s