I have a proposal that I'm going to run by the Board during our
remaining face-to-face session today that may help with this.
Please Stand By. :)
-Joan
On 2019-05-16 10:43 a.m., Ross Gardler wrote:
Seems to me like we have plenty of people who feel this is a good idea, but not
one we feel is appropriate.
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From: Andrew Musselman <a...@apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 7:33:40 AM
To: diversity@apache.org
Subject: Re: Diversity Information from iCLA?
I get nervous when people talk about using data about me "for reasons" if I
haven't agreed to it before submitting information.
I suspect I'm not unusual in having that reaction; it could be risky just
using info "about people" without asking for their consent.
One rule of thumb for whether "using people's data" will be palatable to
them is whether they'll perceive a benefit from it, either to themselves or
to the community.
Conducting a survey would give everyone a chance to explain the motivation
and get buy-in, fwiw.
On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 04:00 Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> wrote:
I would also be falsely guessed as American based on my ICLA
information. Less confusing in my case than in some, because I am a
native English speaker of European ancestry.
On 5/16/2019 3:24 AM, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy wrote:
It would be helpful to do the analysis, but I do think we should be
careful
on this analysis to jump into conclusions too quickly.
I moved to the USA from another country, and US address is given in the
ICLA. That is true for a good number of my friends who started getting
involved with open source as well. Including or excluding people like me
in
the analysis would not really capture the diversity part.
So I think doing the analysis is a great idea, but we should be cautious
about the conclusions we derive from it.
Best
Aizhamal
On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 09:37 Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> wrote:
On 5/15/2019 7:20 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Hi Awasum,
On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 3:42 PM Awasum Yannick <awa...@apache.org>
wrote:
...If we really wanted to know the country/country/geographical
distribution
of our committers, the most reliable way to do it is to look at the
iCLA
files without displaying names of committers, just the countries...
I agree in principle but the lone committer from Failuristan, where
participation in Open Source can get you in trouble, would not be
happy to see that.
For several years I was over 50, female, and a student in UCSD's
Computer Science PhD program.
Considered separately, age, gender, department, and intended degree each
seems harmless. Taken together, they uniquely identified me.
I looked closely at surveys, and checked whether they had a minimum
group size policy that would protect my privacy. I would have been upset
to see information I had supplied for legal or administrative purposes
treated as research survey data without having the opportunity to decide
for myself whether or not to participate.
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