On Tuesday 09 February 2010 13:09:08 Brice Leroy wrote: > django-admin startproject creates an empty folder... > > startproject almost = mkdir > > This will generate your models, modelForm, views, templates, urls, and > soon customized forms and permissions >
That's what the web interface does? Yes startproject gives you empty files so you can add in your own code, with the minimal funs. For me, I don't see your project as a big advantage, except maybe two minutes of time where I don't need to do things like: class MyModel(models.Model): ... I don't know, thought about your approach before, but think it's reduntant. Just because each project requires it's own data and model field attributes and form funs... And I think django already does a great job of genericizing this stuff with the code i.e. ModelFoms. I don't know how much of a real timesaver this really is. Didn't even mention tests.. Which can you auto generate? Especially if your project's outputed code isn't template driven where each user of it can change the boiler plate code with minimal or no fuss, so it can be tailored to each users needs. Like I'm able to add in my most used imports, which aren't all going to be yours or anyone elses or the same in each project. I think the minimal approach of django-admin is a much better way to do these things. With either way you still have to give the fields, options and the names, then fill in the functions you need/want. Each function that can be autogenerated is like two lines of code. I don't know if your generated code can handle a lot of choices I make, like making fields not editable in the admin, setting defaults, etc... and even if you do offer these choices, the time to use your project and code it up probably isn't much different. The big thing for me in terms of tools like this, is the ability to save time, which I don't think there is a difference between what django-admin has and your project. Because either way I need to still fill in the fields, the type of field it is, etc.. and typeing IntegerField() isn't faster than selecting from a drop down box. Tho the importing of existing models maybe interesting for refactoring, Tho I just cp oldversion newversion and make the changes. I still have a large feeling I'm going to editting what your project outputs (blame this on things like UML). When I would just rather write it once and forget it. I also love building development tools, I'm just finishing up something like this for Go. Where it'll generate a project directory tree of your Go files (either a package or command, with Makefiels, readme, etc.. all template driven so you can edit the boilerplate code to be what you want) it'll be released in a few more days when I finish cleaning up the default templates and a few optimizations. If you want to see what I mean, I don't mind sending it today. Just know there are a lot of mistakes in the templates and still looking at a few tweaks and playing with usability. But in the end, I think the time saved with yours is going to be minimal I believe unless your can guess what model fields I need and what options they are it's not saving that much time (maybe 30 minutes?). Otherwise, I think that altering django-admin startporject to be template driven is a better idea than this. Sorry for being negative, but without negativity how can we be challenged and grow? Mike > I'll add a copy project so you can extend an existing model if you > have a big production pace of common project model. > > 2010/2/9 Mike Ramirez <gufym...@gmail.com>: > > On Tuesday 09 February 2010 12:58:32 Brice Leroy wrote: > >> Hello everybody, > >> > >> I've been working for a week on this idea of a generator for django > >> project. The goal is to provide a simple architecture that can be > >> after adapted to your project. The system is in alpha stage but allows > >> you to create project, model (+1 view and 1 form) and application. > >> Once your project is created you can download a tar.gz with the > >> complete project already build for you. > >> > >> It's supposed to be used with the trunk version of django. > >> > >> I plan to add permission, forms and view during the next 15 days. Let > >> me know if you have any advice or request. > >> > >> The project can be found here: http://alpha.djangogenerator.com/ and > >> is open to registration > >> The source code is located on github: > >> http://github.com/debrice/djangogenerator > >> > >> All the best, > >> > >> -- > >> Brice Leroy > >> http://www.debrice.com > > > > how is this different than `django-admin startproject` ? > > > > Mike > > -- > > Overconfidence breeds error when we take for granted that the game will > > continue on its normal course; when we fail to provide for an unusually > > powerful resource -- a check, a sacrifice, a stalemate. Afterwards the > > victim may wail, `But who could have dreamt of such an idiotic-looking > > move?' -- Fred Reinfeld, "The Complete Chess Course" > -- After the Children of Israel had wandered for thirty-nine years in the wilderness, Ferdinand Feghoot arrived to make sure that they would finally find and enter the Promised Land. With him, he brought his favorite robot, faithful old Yewtoo Artoo, to carry his gear and do assorted camp chores. The Israelites soon got over their initial fear of the robot and, as the months passed, became very fond of him. Patriarchs took to discussing abtruse theological problems with him, and each evening the children all gathered to hear the many stories with which he was programmed. Therefore it came as a great shock to them when, just as their journey was ending, he abruptly wore out. Even Feghoot couldn't console them. "It may be true, Ferdinand Feghoot," said Moses, "that our friend Yewtoo Artoo was soulless, but we cannot believe it. He must be properly interred. We cannot embalm him as do the Egyptians. Nor have we wood for a coffin. But I do have a most splendid skin from one of Pharoah's own cattle. We shall bury him in it." Feghoot agreed. "Yes, let this be his last rusting place." "Rusting?" Moses cried. "Not in this dreadful dry desert!" "Ah!" sighed Ferdinand Feghoot, shedding a tear, "I fear you do not realize the full significance of Pharoah's oxhide!" -- Grendel Briarton "Through Time & Space With Ferdinand Feghoot!"
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