On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 14:34:22 Laura Atkins wrote:
> On Jan 20, 2015, at 2:14 PM, Franck Martin <fra...@peachymango.org> wrote:
> >> But on the off-chance that it's not impossible to clarify
> >> this now, and assuming that my growing suspicion that HELO is
> > 
> >> ignored is correct, then I would propose:
> > Your confusion on HELO is may be related to the fact that the HELO string
> > is only used when the MAIL-FROM: is empty?
> > 
> > There is some text here:
> > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7208#section-10.1.3
> > 
> > The HELO string is not evaluated all the time, it is more like a fall
> > back.
> 
> 7208 actually recommends that the HELO string be evaluated every time.
> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7208#section-2.3
> 
> "2.3.  The "HELO" Identity
> 
> 
>    It is RECOMMENDED that SPF verifiers not only check the "MAIL FROM"
>    identity but also separately check the "HELO" identity by applying
>    the check_host() function (Section 4) to the "HELO" identity as the
>    <sender>.  Checking "HELO" promotes consistency of results and can
>    reduce DNS resource usage."
> 
> laura

Approximately the same text existed in RFC 4408 2.1:

>    It is RECOMMENDED that SPF clients not only check the "MAIL FROM"
>    identity, but also separately check the "HELO" identity by applying
>    the check_host() function (Section 4) to the "HELO" identity as the
>    <sender>.

HELO results are unrelated to DMARC.

Scott K

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