On Jan 20, 2015, at 2:14 PM, Franck Martin <fra...@peachymango.org> wrote:

> 
>> But on the off-chance that it's not impossible to clarify
>> this now, and assuming that my growing suspicion that HELO is
>> ignored is correct, then I would propose:
>> 
> 
> Your confusion on HELO is may be related to the fact that the HELO string is 
> only used when the MAIL-FROM: is empty?
> 
> There is some text here:
> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7208#section-10.1.3
> 
> The HELO string is not evaluated all the time, it is more like a fall back.

7208 actually recommends that the HELO string be evaluated every time. 
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7208#section-2.3

"2.3.  The "HELO" Identity


   It is RECOMMENDED that SPF verifiers not only check the "MAIL FROM"
   identity but also separately check the "HELO" identity by applying
   the check_host() function (Section 4) to the "HELO" identity as the
   <sender>.  Checking "HELO" promotes consistency of results and can
   reduce DNS resource usage."

laura 

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