On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Terry Zink <tz...@exchange.microsoft.com>
wrote:

> The average Internet user doesn't understand DMARC. The average person on
> an Internet mailing list doesn't understand DMARC either, and even the
> average tech person on a mailing list doesn't understand DMARC. All they
> know is that their mailing list doesn't work, or that they have been
> unsubscribed. Only people who work on DMARC understand DMARC.
>
> Asking the average person to switch their email address just so that they
> can participate in mailing lists isn't a solution.
>

Three thumbs up on the last sentiment above - could you imagine saying to
someone that you need to switch phone providers in order to reach certain
recipients? And while my current use of gmail allows me to more or less get
around DMARC list problems (although I need to check my incoming spam
folder at least daily since mailing list DMARC failures send legitimate
emails there), there’s no guarantee how long that will continue.

And regarding Terry's previous paragraph, while I’m by no means an expert
on DMARC (or mailman for that matter), a bit of googling tells me that
there are more recent versions of mailman than what the IETF is currently
using that support DMARC mitigation. See, for example,
http://www.spamresource.com/2016/09/dmarc-support-in-mailman.html .

Cheers,
Andy
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